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Offline slink

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Mirules hit Platt, Matix in head, 3x each, 4" .38
« on: April 20, 2006, 07:42:37 AM »
using plus P 158 gr lhp ammo, at a range of 3-6 ft from the muzzle. One bullet on each man was deflected down into their necks, and that's what killed them.  The other 4 slugs, in line for their brains, failed to penetrate their skulls. So much for the "powerful" .38 Special, especially from a 2" barrel.
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Mirules hit Platt, Matix in head, 3x each,
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2006, 07:56:57 AM »
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So much for the "powerful" .38 Special, especially from a 2" barrel.


How did that go from a 4" 38 to a 2" 38 in the same encounter?  Who has touted the 38 Special to be a powerful skull puncher?  Please start posting some of your sources to back your statements.

Ask him to load 140gr. JHPs at 900+fps. next time.  I think that would be a better defense load in a 38 special.

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Just pointing out that even the FOUR inch .38 failed.
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2006, 11:41:28 AM »
and the 2" has CONSIDERABLY less velocity and power than the 2". Yet MANY here "think" that even MUCH less powerful loads (ie, .22 mag, .32 ACP, 380, .32 mag, etc, are AOK for defensive use. They most emphatically are NOT ok. they are pathetic in such a role.
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Re: Mirules hit Platt, Matix in head, 3x each, 4" .38
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2006, 01:49:58 PM »
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using plus P 158 gr lhp ammo, at a range of 3-6 ft from the muzzle. One bullet on each man was deflected down into their necks, and that's what killed them.  The other 4 slugs, in line for their brains, failed to penetrate their skulls. So much for the "powerful" .38 Special, especially from a 2" barrel.


i have no idea what it is you are trying to convey here. none....
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Mirules hit Platt, Matix in head, 3x each,
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2006, 03:12:58 PM »
I don't think you could talk about true skull crushing power with any 38, not even a super +P.  If using such a cartridge I would be going for flesh penetration.
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Mirules hit Platt, Matix in head, 3x each,
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2006, 06:22:42 PM »
Slink I'm going to ask you one more time, is there a point to all these type posts you're making? If so spit it out. I'm tiring of them.
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So what?
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2006, 02:30:06 AM »
The point is that a lot of people are very ignorant about ballistics and gunhandling, when such things are applied to defensive use.
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Mirules hit Platt, Matix in head, 3x each,
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2006, 05:47:08 AM »
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The point is that a lot of people are very ignorant about ballistics and gunhandling, when such things are applied to defensive use.


While I will certainly agree with that premise I just don't see how what you are doing is changing the status quo around here. It's pretty common knowledge and has been for a LOOOONG time the .38 Special is a pretty weak sister and most especially when used with 158 Lead RN bullets is a notoriously poor stopper. Hey after all that's why the .357 Magnum came along wasn't it?

You'd do more to both educate and convince folks to listen to you if you'd change the tone and lose the "attitude" I think all are seeing from you.

You very much remind me of a fellow who's been around here a bunch of times in the past under a bunch of different names and each time he's been kicked out. If it is still him here again under a new name you should know from the past you won't last long if you keep it up. If you are NOT him you best still learn quickly in order to stay around. We're not into folks who wish only to encite others.
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Hey, why dont you tell that to the guy
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2006, 11:24:33 AM »
who is so "confident" that the .38 suffices? Or those who think so highly of 380, makarov, .32 ACP, or 32 Magnum, hmm?  :-) Ignorance is not overcome by going along with it.
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Mirules hit Platt, Matix in head, 3x each,
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2006, 12:07:03 PM »
Some people never learn, clearly you are one of them. Once again under one more name you've now been kicked  off GBO. Bye Slink. What name and IP Address will you use next time?
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Mirules hit Platt, Matix in head, 3x each,
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2006, 07:48:17 PM »
:cb2: I'm really confused. What group of men were shot in the head? Why? And what happened to the 4 that "failed to penetrate"? I feel like I missed the first 15 minutes of CSI and I don't know what the show is all about?
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Mirules hit Platt, Matix in head, 3x each,
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2006, 10:25:32 AM »
He was refering to the ill fated FBI-Miami shootout in 1986. Actually shot placement was what finally won the day.
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