Author Topic: bullet choice (Read 2957 times)

Redhawk1 · « **Reply #30 on:** February 28, 2006, 10:56:19 AM »

Quote from: hoggunner

yes guys i am going to a high fenced canned hunt. they import their pigs from canada and the big ones run around 400lbs. this is a canned hunt and the pigs are so tame you can ride them LOL I thank everyone for their views and made my mind to use the biggest badest bullet i can find :eek: . at $600 bucks for a drop of blood i want to make sure the porks in the freezer. are they real russians i dont know but if they are from europe does it matter, i think they taste the same. a russian boar would only be a hog with balls and shot in russia so we use the term russian boar losely :roll:
sportingly
Hoggunner

Nothing wrong with going to a high fenced hunt. I hope you have a great time and let us know how you make out.

I seen quit a few of them boars killed with a plain old 30-30 with 150 gr. bullets. :wink:

Don Fischer · « **Reply #31 on:** March 01, 2006, 04:25:10 PM »

Got new's for you guy's, there are free ranging Russian Boars in this country. Seem's a game farm here in Oregon had a problem with Ore Dept of Fish & Waste and some how all his boars got loose. That was about 20 yrs ago. Maybe a bit less. More bad new's, their all on private ranches with real tuff acess. One bit of priceless triva, the rancher's don't know their all that tuff. One of them shoot's them with the 22-250 he carries for coyotes! Ah, factory loads, none of the rancher's around here reload.

Don Fischer · « **Reply #32 on:** March 01, 2006, 04:26:32 PM »

Got new's for you guy's, there are free ranging Russian Boars in this country. Seem's a game farm here in Oregon had a problem with Ore Dept of Fish & Waste and some how all his boars got loose. That was about 20 yrs ago. Maybe a bit less. More bad new's, their all on private ranches with real tuff acess. One bit of priceless triva, the rancher's don't know their all that tuff. One of them shoot's them with the 22-250 he carries for coyotes! Ah, factory loads, none of the rancher's around here reload.

oso45-70 · « **Reply #33 on:** March 01, 2006, 06:44:12 PM »

Don Ficher

Thats what Lawdog was saying, Some thing about two years ago, I had forgot about it until now. Although i think he called them European if memory serves me right. But at the same time it seem like he did say Russian boar. Thanks for reminding me about that. As scatter brained as i am he may have been talking about most any thing Thanks Don

............Joe..........

Redhawk1 · « **Reply #34 on:** March 02, 2006, 02:02:51 AM »

Quote from: Don Fischer

Got new's for you guy's, there are free ranging Russian Boars in this country. Seem's a game farm here in Oregon had a problem with Ore Dept of Fish & Waste and some how all his boars got loose. That was about 20 yrs ago. Maybe a bit less. More bad new's, their all on private ranches with real tuff acess. One bit of priceless triva, the rancher's don't know their all that tuff. One of them shoot's them with the 22-250 he carries for coyotes! Ah, factory loads, none of the rancher's around here reload.

I don't doubt it for one second.

Don Fischer · « **Reply #35 on:** March 02, 2006, 04:55:19 AM »

Redhawk,

Next time I get home, I'll go out to where the rancher's hang the head and hide's and see if I can get you a photo. If none are out there, the best I can do is one my ex-wife thru into the bed of my old pickup 4 or 5 yrs ago. Looked at it last fall and it was about gone but you can decide for yourself.

They really are there, you just can't get to them on the property their on. It may be possible that some have migrated over to Cherry Creek but haven't heard of any there yet.

Redhawk1 · « **Reply #36 on:** March 02, 2006, 06:48:14 AM »

Don Fischer, I believe you. How do you think we have fallow deer running around in Maryland.

flintlock · « **Reply #37 on:** March 02, 2006, 07:04:23 AM »

We also have Russian hogs here in NC...Biltmore Estates imported several in the early 1900s....The got loose and roam the Smokey Mountains...

Dusty Miller · « **Reply #38 on:** March 02, 2006, 09:25:57 AM »

It appears that the three most important things about killing hogs is 1.) shot placement, 2.) shot placement and 3.) shot placement. I've only killed two pigs, one in southern Russia with a 200 gr. Speer Grand Slam (that pig ran for 75 yards and collapsed) and the other was at King City, CA. The second one was asleep on a hillside and took a round in the neck close to the head. It didn't even flinch, just layed there a minute and then rolled down into a gully. I'm guessing either one would've done about the same thing with a 150 gr. bullet but I had the 200s loaded up and that's what I used. Head shots seem to be as effective on four legged pigs as they are on the two legged variety!

victorcharlie · « **Reply #39 on:** March 02, 2006, 10:27:50 AM »

Quote from: flintlock

We also have Russian hogs here in NC...Biltmore Estates imported several in the early 1900s....The got loose and roam the Smokey Mountains...

There were some in Tennessee as well, but over time have crossed with domestic hogs. I doubt you would find a pure Russian Boar, but some type of cross with mixed ancestory......

rickt300 · « **Reply #40 on:** March 03, 2006, 06:06:21 AM »

I'm not sure why there is so much interest in the "Russian" angle. The ones on my lease get over 500 pounds and are as gnarly looking as anything I've ever seen. The brush is real thick and thorny so to shorten the looking for it part we like to shoot them in the neck or head. The guys use everything from 22-250's to 300 Winchester magnums with the corelokt being the bullet of choice among most. I personally give the 180 grain Corelokt a high rating as a hog killer. Remember the heart and lungs are a bit farther forward than where a deer has them and a good place to shoot them is right at the foreleg at about the "elbow".

Land_Owner · « **Reply #41 on:** March 03, 2006, 10:17:21 AM »

I just shoot them between the ears and eyes with a 22LR from a steady rest at 25 yards. They go right down and their buddies keep on eating. The 22LR report doesn't send the whole sounder headed back to the swamp in full terror like the larger and louder calibers (Speer 150 gr. FN in 30-30 Win.; Nosler 130 gr. PAR in 270 Win.; to name a few).

ratgunner · « **Reply #42 on:** March 12, 2006, 06:36:13 AM »

AHEM,Well I don't want to reopen an arguement here but,I did say I never before heard of an '06 not being enough for hogs and I still think it is plenty.However today on OLN I was watching a hunting show where a big black boar got hit in the right spot with a 180grn. bonded something or other and before the hunter could put an insurance shot into it the hog it got up and ran down the hill . :shock: The guide and hunter tracked it( in the snow no less) and there was no blood and it got intermingled with other hogs tracks and it wasn't showing any signs of being hurt-like favoring a leg or laying down.They never found it.When he shot you could see the hit was good and the hog dropped ,but he got up and was gone.Guess I owe you an opolagy oso-45-70. :oops:

RaySendero · « **Reply #43 on:** March 12, 2006, 07:05:05 AM »

Don,
Think of the CoreLokts - The 220 RN would be best for your situation.

hoggunner · « **Reply #44 on:** March 12, 2006, 09:19:20 AM »

got back from my hunt and we had a great time :lol: . the boar were a little smaller than the last hunt but they made up for it in attitude :eek: . I took one that ran around 225lbs. and after putting a 300 grain hard cast through him he wanted a piece of me :evil: , second shot was at roughly 6 ft, that turned him and i got a third through him, that stopped him :lol: . the 44 mag raging bull won this battle and and i will never part with her. the bushnel holo site work like a dream against the black pig even with these bad eyes :eek: . now i need to try and post i pic for you guys. great hunt at daves hog wild in the u.p. of michagan with about 30+ inches of snow on the ground.
hoggunner

hoggunner · « **Reply #45 on:** March 12, 2006, 09:57:36 AM »

Here goes i hope it works, trying to post a pic of the boar

ratgunner · « **Reply #46 on:** March 12, 2006, 11:02:16 AM »

Grat jod hogunner,you didn't need the rifle after all. :grin: That is one nice hog.

35Rem · « **Reply #47 on:** March 13, 2006, 04:25:39 PM »

I like the guy using 200 gr core lockts in a 35 Remington. Definately not on par with a 180 grain 30-06 anything... BUT, apparently it is sufficient.

I would have voted for the 180 Rem's..

Nice hog! Do it again!

oso45-70 · « **Reply #48 on:** March 13, 2006, 10:47:52 PM »

Quote from: ratgunner

AHEM,Well I don't want to reopen an arguement here but,I did say I never before heard of an '06 not being enough for hogs and I still think it is plenty.However today on OLN I was watching a hunting show where a big black boar got hit in the right spot with a 180grn. bonded something or other and before the hunter could put an insurance shot into it the hog it got up and ran down the hill . :shock: The guide and hunter tracked it( in the snow no less) and there was no blood and it got intermingled with other hogs tracks and it wasn't showing any signs of being hurt-like favoring a leg or laying down.They never found it.When he shot you could see the hit was good and the hog dropped ,but he got up and was gone.Guess I owe you an opolagy oso-45-70. :oops:

ratgunner

No Apolagy necessary, Nice pig,, Congratulations on a good hunt, Nice cutters on him also

..............Joe...............Hoggunner

jmckinley · « **Reply #49 on:** May 02, 2006, 03:51:31 AM »

First time on this site and find the discussion interesting. it was so nice to see everyone getting along so well!

I just found out sunday we have hogs here In New Mexico which i didn't know about. Now I have a wild hair to give this a try. If anyone here has an idea where to hunt em in this state please let me know. I haven't got 57 years experience heck i'm only 55 soon to be 56 but I do have over 40 and will pay close attention to tthe man with that many years under his belt. i'll be using my 308 with 180 partitions or core-lokt and stick it in his ear hole god willing. All I do know for sure Hunting large boars is a dangerous game right behind big Brown Nasty Griz. Place the bullet and Chops for dinner, if not a few tusk marks for your trouble. Jess :shock:

dubber123 · « **Reply #50 on:** May 02, 2006, 01:50:04 PM »

Hoggunner, I'm am really sure an 06' with any reasonable load will do great if placed properly. A guy at my last "Russian boar" hunt used some old military rifle with a much smaller than 06' round and was one of only 4 that got an "on the spot stop". There was 30 guys hunting that weekend. This guy didn't have the biggest gun, or the fanciest ammo, but he could shoot, and didn't get rattled! If you can, use the .44, I was the only guy out of 30 that used a handgun, and my head did indeed get a little swelled after making a one shot stop. (.475 Linebaugh). Getting them with a handgun is really cool. I'm also jealous, you hunt for 600$, mine was 900$. Has taken me almost a year to save up again. Good luck!!