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Offline Cheyenne Ranger

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.38 vs .45 LC as a CAS caliber
« on: December 11, 2002, 02:45:09 PM »
Two schools of thought on revolver and rifle caliber:  .38's are smaller, and usually are a bit quicker to get back on target.  .45 LC are more period correct.  Cost is about the same so it usually is a matter of choice and what your mentor is using.

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« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2002, 06:59:48 AM »
At our club the troops show up early to help set up the stages.  During this time we also pay our shooting fees.  Then at 8:30 we have the Pledge to the American Flag and have a safety briefing and general announcement time. From here we move to the stage our "possie" has been assigned.
Once there they read the stage instructions and off we go.
All of the members are more than helpful and willing to load everything under the Sun to get you to shoot.  So if you go out to watch you might be shooting before you're done.
If you know someone who is shooting--that's great, if not just ask questions.  They remember that everyone was a beginner when you first started out.
You probably would do well to bring 100 rounds of pistol and 50 each of rifle and shotgun.  Bringing more than enough is better than bringing too little--if you have to yell "BANG" cause you ran out of bullets you won't have a very high score.
Check www.sassnet.com for locations of clubs in your area
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« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2002, 03:27:53 PM »
Ammunition costs, even reloading, 38/357 is way more economical!!!   Recoil is much less from a down loaded 38 with a 110 grain bullet than a mid range load from a 45 with a 250 grainer!  This makes aligning with the next target MUCH quicker, so if you have a limited budget, or aspirations of becoming one of the speed demons (and I say that with respect, some of these folks are so smooth in their shooting and transition to another gun they only LOOK slow), 38/357 is the way to go.

Don't for get the vaqueritos in 32!   There is also the old traditional cartridges, 32-20, 38-40, 44-40, and then too the 44 special, colt, russian, magnum, 45 scofield.

I guess the best sass, 'scuse me, cas cartridge would be the one you already have, or the one you like best.


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« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2002, 06:15:49 AM »
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I have wanted to get into it for a while I just bought a marlin 1894c in 357 and a Ruger Black hawk in 357 how does a normal weekend compatition go.


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Just in case you didn't know, while shooting in CAS or SASS here is the rules straight from SASS

AMMUNITION
· Revolver ammunition must have a muzzle velocity less than 1,000 fps. Rifle ammunition must have a muzzle velocity less than 1,400 fps. Ammunition suspected of exceeding these velocity restrictions may be examined by the range-master. Shooters may be held responsible for damage caused to a target or injury to personnel due to “bounce-back” because of inappropriate ammunition. This major safety violation is grounds for “instant disqualification” and ejection from the match.

So you will have to have them 357 cartridges loaded down to almost 38's anyway.

Just a heads up.
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« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2002, 07:51:55 AM »
I just load my .357's using my .38 powder measure (Dillon SDB).  This gives me the length my rifle likes and the powder (or lack thereof) from the .38 round.
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« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2002, 04:04:38 AM »
Britt,
I think that what you want is a breif description of a match  If I am wrong please ignore this post.

A match usually consists of 5 or more stages. Most monthly matches are one day affairs and involve 5 or 6 stages. Multi day matches are more stages plus side matches. You can find out about side matches later.


There is frequently a story line for each stage such as :" You are out rounding up cattle when you are attacked by a band of rustlers. To defend yourself and your cattle you do the following:"

A stage is usually 5 or 10 pistol rounds, 8 to 10 rifle rounds and 2 to 10 shotgun rounds.


You will have a particular order in which to shoot the targets. You may or may not have some required line to speak.

You have never had more fun fully dressed.

Find a local club and just go watch if you like.

Cowpersons like nothing better than to show off.

I have forgotten where you are located, but if you get to the west side of Michigan check out the Rockford Regulators at www.Rockfordsportsmansclub.com

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« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2002, 06:28:19 AM »
Tres Equis I shoot a 92 Rossi in .45.  Try 15.2 gr.  2400 with a 250gr.  RNFP.  That is a consistent  load .It is not max.   Also 8gr. Unique -250gr.bullet works well. I use 2400 because I have a keg on hand. I save the Unique for shotgun . Hope this helps. :-)
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« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2002, 09:15:02 AM »
I use .38/.357 because that's what I was reloading before I started CAS.
Economics only. I'm certainly no Gamer,just having fun with what I've got. :-)
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« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2003, 01:30:52 PM »
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THE ONLY PROBLEM I AM HAVING NOW IS FINDING THE RIGHT RELOAD FOR MY ROSSI 92. ANY SUGGESTIONS?


I use the same in the 92 that I use in my pistols
11 Gr. HS6
200 Gr Mid Kansas Cast or Lasercast
Federal 215 primer
right at 1000 FPS from the pistolvers

very clean and accurate.
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« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2003, 08:34:51 AM »
Tres Equis, I have been shooting Clays in the 45 Colt for years in the '92 carbine.  250 gr. bullet 5.0 pr 5.1 gr. Clays.  Tight groups and pretty clean.
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« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2003, 08:06:23 PM »
A 45 colt load that we have used in several rifles and revolvers is 4.7gn IMR700X, 250gn RNFP,  and WLP primers.
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« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2003, 09:07:27 PM »
I prefer the .45 over the .38 but my real preference is .32-20's.

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