Redhawk1, Overkill on Black Bear? Maybe to the unkowing who've never tried it. I regularly use a .416 Rigby on the lowly whitetail deer, a No.1 and a CZ. My buddys primary deer rifle is a .458 Win Mag. As a handloader and bullet caster, I'm able to tailor the load to the task at hand. Lets use the .458 as an example. Once the slug leaves the barrel and is in flight to the target (Deer) What exactly is it now? A .45 cal slug. Shot from what? A 45/70. How do you know? Because we're in deer country. You come along and pull the slug out from the tree that stopped it. It's a Speer 400gr F.N. Yea, 45/70, 450 Malin, etc. Of,course your just guessing because the hunter is back at camp celbrating his havest. You stop by find out it was his and can't believe the front end is still attached to the overkilled deer. Just a .45 cal. hole in and slightly larger out. When we butcher it, its also quite pleasing to find no capillary explosion of blood shot meat to throw away. Like you would get from your "perfect deer rifle" you can decide what that is. Your .416 is .042" under what some would consider the an adequate bear rifle, the 45/70. The versatility of the over .40's is why I use it on our not as tough as African game. Of course its just plain cool too. Use it, hunt with it, and keep doing what your doing with it, enjoying it. CRASH87