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Best 45/70 Gov't hand Load using the hornady 300 Gr.hp
« on: May 13, 2006, 01:45:03 AM »
Whats a good hand load using the hornady 300 Gr. Hp .Will be use in whitetail deer hunting.
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« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2006, 02:59:19 AM »
Bullet: Sierra 300 Grain Flat Nose Hollow Point
Powder: 51.8 grains of IMR-4198          
Primer: Winchester Large Rifle          
Case: Winchester          
Firearm: Ruger Number 3
Optics: Leupold 1x4
Velocity: 2161 FPS @ 15' from muzzle
Accuracy: 5-shots, 100-yards, <1.5"

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« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2006, 03:27:25 AM »
Since the poster has not specified the firearm with which he will hunt, no one can safely recommend a load for him above Trapdoor levels.  Loads safe in a Marlin 1895 might stretch a T/C Contender apart.  

A safe and highly accurate 300-grain load in my Contender is 21.0 grains of BlueDot.  51 grains of IMR4198 would not be a safe load in this or some other rifles; if you read the post above closely you will note the rifle used is among the strongest ever available for the cartridge.  I've used that load in my M98 rifle, but I would never consider it for my Contender or my old H&R Trapper.

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« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2006, 03:50:17 AM »
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Since the poster has not specified the firearm with which he will hunt, no one can safely recommend a load for him above Trapdoor levels.  Loads safe in a Marlin 1895 might stretch a T/C Contender apart.  

A safe and highly accurate 300-grain load in my Contender is 21.0 grains of BlueDot.  51 grains of IMR4198 would not be a safe load in this or some other rifles; if you read the post above closely you will note the rifle used is among the strongest ever available for the cartridge.  I've used that load in my M98 rifle, but I would never consider it for my Contender or my old H&R Trapper.



   Hey lone star the gun i'll be using is the H&R ultra hunter 45/70 Gov't 22" barrel.I have been told the reloader 7 is a good powder for this weight bullet and type gun


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« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2006, 05:28:20 AM »
Here's some data for other 300gr bullets that are within the Ultra's capabilities, although they may not be within yours as far as recoil!!

http://www.realguns.com/loads/4570.htm

The Hornady manual for the 300gr hornady HP shows RL-7 starting at 44.7gr to a max of 52.3gr in the levergun level. They recommend Win brass, Fed 210 primers.

If you want to stay in the trapdoor level, their start load for RL-7 is 31.6gr.

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« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2006, 05:45:47 AM »
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Here's some data for other 300gr bullets that are within the Ultra's capabilities, although they may not be within yours as far as recoil!!

http://www.realguns.com/loads/4570.htm

The Hornady manual for the 300gr hornady HP shows RL-7 starting at 44.7gr to a max of 52.3gr in the levergun level. They recommend Win brass, Fed 210 primers.

If you want to stay in the trapdoor level, their start load for RL-7 is 31.6gr.

Tim


    Thank's for the link tim.I had another guy give me a good load 49.0 grains Reloader 7/CCI-200 primer/Hornady 300Gr.Hp he said it was good load on deer out to 150 yards.

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« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2006, 06:06:10 AM »
Just remember, what works in another rifle, even an identical model, doesn't necessarily mean it will shoot good in yours. I prefer to choose a powder and bullet combo that shows promise from others that have worked with em, like you have with the RL-7, and work up my own load. A prime example is Paul5388's hornet load, it shoots good in several other member's Handis, but mine hates it.

In my .45-70 Ultra, I shoot 300gr nosler partitions at just a tad over 2400fps, but I started my load work well below that level and worked up, it shoots into less than an inch at 100yds.

If you choose to shoot levergun loads, I'd do some recoil prevention up front for the bench work, weight in the stock bolt hole, a better recoil pad and shoulder shield, and try to shoot as upright as possible which means either a high bench or high rest.

Hope this helps,

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« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2006, 10:01:00 AM »
Marlin 1895 45-70 22" barrel
300 grain Hornady seated to 2.55" COAL and crimped with a Lee Factory Crimp Die
Winchester brass, 2.1" trim, if necessary
CCI 200 primer
55 grains H4198
2180 fps and around 28,000 CUP

This load is safe in a 45-70 H&R Ultra Hunter.
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« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2006, 04:50:12 PM »
Quote from: EsoxLucius
Marlin 1895 45-70 22" barrel
300 grain Hornady seated to 2.55" COAL and crimped with a Lee Factory Crimp Die
Winchester brass, 2.1" trim, if necessary
CCI 200 primer
55 grains H4198
2180 fps and around 28,000 CUP

This load is safe in a 45-70 H&R Ultra Hunter.



    Thank's for the info Esoxlucius  :grin:


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« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2006, 04:56:57 PM »
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Just remember, what works in another rifle, even an identical model, doesn't necessarily mean it will shoot good in yours. I prefer to choose a powder and bullet combo that shows promise from others that have worked with em, like you have with the RL-7, and work up my own load. A prime example is Paul5388's hornet load, it shoots good in several other member's Handis, but mine hates it.

In my .45-70 Ultra, I shoot 300gr nosler partitions at just a tad over 2400fps, but I started my load work well below that level and worked up, it shoots into less than an inch at 100yds.

If you choose to shoot levergun loads, I'd do some recoil prevention up front for the bench work, weight in the stock bolt hole, a better recoil pad and shoulder shield, and try to shoot as upright as possible which means either a high bench or high rest.

Hope this helps,

Tim



     Tim on your 45/70 ultra using the 300 gr. nosler partitions what powder and grains are you using.


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