Author Topic: 25 ACP handi (Read 1409 times)

dk17hmr · « **on:** May 09, 2006, 10:13:50 AM »

I was thinking the other day, I know I know bad news right. But I was thinkin about this. A guy could get a 22 barrel or maybe a 17 Mach II barrel and bore it out and chamber it for 25 ACP. Would be about uses less on anything bigger then maybe a fox, but that would be a cool project.

What do ya'll think?
I bet you could get one of those 35grain XTP bullets cooking....lol

Dk17hmr

DanielWGriggs · « **Reply #1 on:** May 09, 2006, 02:23:20 PM »

Well if that is your wishes why not. Me I think a .32 cal in a rimmed case would be just the ticket. 32-20 comes to mind......

trotterlg · « **Reply #2 on:** May 09, 2006, 05:36:29 PM »

How about one chamber for this: http://www.naaminis.com/25NAA.html

myarmor · « **Reply #3 on:** May 09, 2006, 05:45:46 PM »

It would have to be a labor of love. For me, with that kinda of money involved in a pistol caliber, I would just assume go with a 45 ACP or 30cal M1-yes I know not exactly a pistol caliber, but why not :grin:
-Aaron

Fred M · « **Reply #4 on:** May 09, 2006, 05:48:31 PM »

How about the 5.6 l.f.B. ( Lang für Büchsen) a great plinking cartridge.

jack19512 · « **Reply #5 on:** May 10, 2006, 01:07:02 AM »

Posted by dk17hmr

"What do ya'll think?

Myself, I think it would be a total waste of time and money. :? Sorry, but you asked. :roll:

Datil · « **Reply #6 on:** May 10, 2006, 01:19:37 AM »

I think better to get Sportster In one of 4 calibers, Leave as is,
Enjoy. By the time you have it bored and camber for 25 ACP
you have spent a bunch of money. My 2 cents Marv

Hammerspur · « **Reply #7 on:** May 10, 2006, 01:44:49 AM »

Quote from: Datil

I think better to get Sportster In one of 4 calibers, Leave as is,
Enjoy. By the time you have it bored and camber for 25 ACP
you have spent a bunch of money. My 2 cents Marv

That green stuff ain't no good for just lookin' at! :-)

Datil · « **Reply #8 on:** May 10, 2006, 02:24:40 AM »

No Hammerspur, green stuff is not to good to look at,
but real good to put bread & butter on the table. Marv.

mt3030 · « **Reply #9 on:** May 10, 2006, 04:21:26 AM »

It's a hobby. Enjoy it. If a 25 ACP blows your skirt up, go for it. That's why some of us invest in 257 Roberts, 17 Remingtons, 338-06s, 405 Winchesters, 30-40 Krags, 225 Winchesters, or 30-30 AIs. And a host of others. Do something unique. Express youself thru YOUR choise of caliber. Custom Handi calibers are not for everybody. Some "nay" sayers have neither no interest, no money, or no imagination. (Don't let them discourage you.) If you have enough of all three, do your thing. And tell us about it. Some would love to hear about it. Good luck.

Wally

quickdtoo · « **Reply #10 on:** May 10, 2006, 05:26:48 AM »

Well said, Wally!!

Tim

cheatermk3 · « **Reply #11 on:** May 10, 2006, 06:35:41 AM »

Yes Wally, well said.

MSP Ret · « **Reply #12 on:** May 10, 2006, 07:59:25 AM »

I have daydreamed about either a .30 Carbine or .45 ACP a few times and think I would enjoy both, however if I could only have one it would be the .45 ACP in a Handi. The .25 ACP is a thought and if thats what you want, I say go for it. I don't think it would be enough for a fox, even at close range but it would be fine for mice in the woodshed and perhaps rats in the corncrib....<><.... :grin:

jack19512 · « **Reply #13 on:** May 10, 2006, 05:15:28 PM »

Posted by mt3030

"Some "nay" sayers have neither no interest, no money, or no imagination. "

I have to disagree. I don't think it has anything to do with "no interest", "no money", or "no imagination".

I think it just has to make sense. Of all the calibers you could chose from the 25 ACP probably makes the least sense of all.

At the cost of 25 ACP ammo what in the world would be gained from having a rifle chambered in this caliber? Especially when you already have the 22LR, 22 Mag, 17 Mach II, and the 17 HMR just to name a few.

Now don't get me wrong. If you have the interest, the money, and you want to exercise your imagination then by all means go for it. What a 25 ACP rifle would actually be good for I am not sure.

mt3030 · « **Reply #14 on:** May 10, 2006, 06:58:54 PM »

Quote from: jack19512

I think it just has to make sense. Of all the calibers you could chose from the 25 ACP probably makes the least sense of all.

Thank you. You just made my point. Obviously it makes no sense to YOU. But to another it might. As you just stated, you have no interest in that caliber. I understand. Each individual wants something different. That's why rifle manufactures make such a wide assortment. That's why Smiths like Wayne can make a living. So we all can have our choise.

Wally

jack19512 · « **Reply #15 on:** May 10, 2006, 10:55:24 PM »

Posted by mt3030

"As you just stated, you have no interest in that caliber. "

I'm glad you think I made your point but I think you missed mine. And no where did I state that I have no interest in that caliber(25 ACP).

The orginal poster didn't ask me if I was interested in converting a rifle to 25 ACP, he asked for opinions on him taking a 22 barrel or maybe a 17 Mach II barrel and bore it out and chamber it for 25 ACP.

I have two 25 ACP pistols that my wife and I carry concealed from time to time and we both enjoy shooting them.

What I don't see any use for is a rifle chambered in 25 ACP when there are already much better calibers available that are cheaper in cost ammunition wise and much better suited for target shooting and hunting purposes.

The original poster wanted to know what the rest of us thought so I stated my honest opinion about what I thought about converting a rifle to the 25 ACP caliber. It just doesn't go in line with some other peoples way of thinking.

I disagreed with your statement "Some "nay" sayers have neither no interest, no money, or no imagination." because for me, being that I am one of the nay sayers, I have the interest to do a project like that, I have way more than enough money to do a project like that, and I definitely have enough imagination.

I just don't see the point or the benefit of a rifle chambered for the 25 ACP. That's just my opinion. That is what the original poster asked for. No where did the original poster state that all of our opinions had to match.

Like I stated before "Now don't get me wrong. If you have the interest, the money, and you want to exercise your imagination then by all means go for it."

If the original poster decides to do the conversion I for one would like to hear how it turns out.

Hammerspur · « **Reply #16 on:** May 11, 2006, 01:45:09 AM »

"At the cost of 25 ACP ammo what in the world would be gained from having a rifle chambered in this caliber?"

Some may like the idea of handloading a little round like the .25...
And I've heard at some point that such a handload can easily outpace .22LR. The larger frontal area of a .25 should strike harder than .22, on a lilliputian scale admittedly, but what the heck?!

It's about having fun with the tinkering, no?

mt3030 · « **Reply #17 on:** May 11, 2006, 03:23:09 AM »

Quote/Like I stated before "Now don't get me wrong. If you have the interest, the money, and you want to exercise your imagination then by all means go for it."/Unquote

Total agreement, jack19512. I guess I missed that statement when you first posted it. That puts us on the same page, wanting to encourage a fellow shooter/Handi fan.

Wally

cpj · « **Reply #18 on:** May 11, 2006, 04:52:50 AM »

That would be an interesting chambering in a handi. I would like to see the numbers for a .25acp out of a rifle length barrel. My lee manual list the .25 with a 35 grain XTP sitting on top of 1.7 grains of titegroup as going 970 feet per second. Im sure that you could get at least 1200 FPS out of a rifle barrel. That would be bad medicine for small critters. Or load it to subsonic levels and have a sneaky little back porch gun. You wouldnt gain much over the 22 long rifle,(if any) but that isnt the point is it? And you could get ALOT of rounds out of a pound of powder.(7000 grains in a pound/ 1.7 grains =4,117 rounds)
I say fire up the lathe!

quickdtoo · « **Reply #19 on:** May 11, 2006, 05:26:42 AM »

FWIW, My Dad picked up a .25 ACP handgun in trade for something one time a several years back, he compared penetration a in 2x4 with a .22 Lr handgun, the .22 went all the way thru, the .25 didn't, needless to say, he wasn't impressed. Donno the .25 load but it was factory ammo and he doesn't buy expensive stuff, the .22 was hollowpoint.

Tim

jerkface11 · « **Reply #20 on:** May 11, 2006, 10:59:28 AM »

Just imagine how quiet a .25acp would be out of a 22" barrel. I for one would love a 9mm.

hunman55 · « **Reply #21 on:** May 11, 2006, 01:50:54 PM »

:grin: Dk, if that's what you want, DO IT. It'll probably be fun and interesting and you'll be the only guy on the block that has one AND that's what Handi's are all about. Let us know. :grin: Hunman55

dk17hmr · « **Reply #22 on:** May 11, 2006, 04:31:04 PM »

What a response....LOL
I guess I should think out loud anymore looks like we had a little dispute going....LOL

Granted the 25 ACP would be almost useless in a rifle and there is no way I would do it right now (poor college kid) but heck that would be a fun little gun to shoot. Plus the fact that you could reload the ammo makes it all the better!.....lol

dk17hmr

Haywire Haywood · « **Reply #23 on:** May 12, 2006, 02:13:02 PM »

I wonder if you would see any gains at all from a 22" barrel. I'd think that the ideal barrel length for burning that tiny amouny of powder would be considerably shorter than 22" and you'd see the extra barrel length actually robbing velocity.

I'd like to see a comparison between what you get from a little palm pistol vs say, an 8 or 10" barreled single shot like a Contender.

Ian

nomosendero · « **Reply #24 on:** May 12, 2006, 02:43:36 PM »

Well, we have all heard of Handgun/Rifle combos that shoot the same cartridge like the rounds used in Cowboy Action Shoots haven't we.

You could have a Handi in 25ACP & a 25 Auto & attend every Pimp Action
Shoot from Queens to Watts. If you have an Escalade/spinning rim budget
you could add a gold plated 32ACP combo!!

Seriously, there is nothing wrong with this project if it is what you want
other than the fact that College Books & other aids to help you graduate
could be considered as better uses of your funds.

Dean van Praotl · « **Reply #25 on:** May 12, 2006, 04:20:18 PM »

Quote from: myarmor

...with that kinda of money involved in a pistol caliber, I would just assume go with... :grin:

Hmmm.... where I come from, 30-30 and .223 are "pistol calibers." To each, his own!

Does a 25ACP have enough oomph to get a bullet through a 24" barrel? :twisted:

myarmor · « **Reply #26 on:** May 12, 2006, 06:18:30 PM »

Like I said it would have to be a lobor of love. And a person would have to either love the caliber a lot to put up the cash for such a project, or he is well off and has plenty of $$$. Other than the novelty of it all, I don't see the draw of a 25 ACP. The 22LR has better ballistics, is a ton cheaper to shoot, and always availible. Kinda like a 22Hornet, at least to me. Other than the novelity of it, I don't see the usefulness of it when I have a 17HMR and 223 in the cabinet. To each his own is right. If it's what you want, my blessings to you. Do what you want with your cash, it's your project, it's your interest...it's what makes the shooting sports so enjoyable. Get what YOU want :agree:

BAGTIC · « **Reply #27 on:** May 27, 2006, 09:41:36 AM »

Whatever turns you on.

I have Handi-Rifles rebored for both the .32 H&R Magnum and a wildcat of my own, the .40-30, a .30-30 blown out straight to take .40 caliber bullets.