Anybody have a sub MOA 8x57?

[Mr. Joe]

I do!!!  I have a remington 700 classic that i got not to long ago that i have been getting some work done on.  I never shot it while stock, but here are the mods and the results.  I had Williams Gunsight free float the barrel and glass beat the action.  Then i did a trigger job on it, taking it down to just under 2lbs and crisp as glass...but totaly safe.  I put on a Nikon Monarch UCC 3-9x40 on leupold QD mounts with low rings.  This is going to be my primary "all around rifle".  I then took it to the range with...get this, Yugo ammo from 1950.  I fired 10 groups of 5 and if you can beleive me, two groups measured under an inch center to center!  Ill post some pics when i can, but needless to say im soooooooooo happy!  I can wait to get some reloads through this bad boy!  Anybody else have one of these rifles and if so, what are your findings?

[beemanbeme]

I have the same rifle as you.  I really like it. I haven't done any real accuracy developement for it however.  I think your trigger pull is too light for a hunting rifle. 

[Mr. Joe]

I think its just right, i guess that it just goes to show, its all about what the owner thinks.

[R.W.Dale]

 The chambering has almost nothing to do with how accurate a rifle is!

 With the stuff you've done to your rifle it should shoot as good as it does or equally as well no matter what the chambering. Be it a 8x57 or a 35 remington. Shure ammo choice plays into things but IMOP crappy ammo doesn't take away from what an accurate rifle can do with good ammo.


 I have a rifle chambered for 7.5 French that shoots SUB moa on AVERAGE . But we all know how inaccurate French rifles are supposed to be.

 And then there's my CZ527 carbine in that inaccurate 7.62x39


 The moral to my post is don't believe that BS about inherent accuracy of one chambering over another.

[Mikey]

Uh, yeah.  Got a couple of them.  Mikey.

[Mr. Joe]

What kind are you all shooting?

[Val]

I have an old German Mauser K98 that was sporterized when I acquired it. It will give me three shot groups just under 1 inch. I haven't even played around with the bullet seating depth. I could probably tighten the groups if I could find the time to play with seating depth.

[Casull]

I think you will find that anyone who responds on here will have a 8 x 57 that will shoot sub MOA.  Not trying to start anything, but seldom see anyone that admits that their gun won't shoot MOA or better (usually "all day long").   

[Drilling Man]

  I haven't fired my 8x57 for groups in a LONG time, but i can tell you i have shot several groups under MOA while finding the load i would use for the rest of my life in that rifle.  I just looked in my loading records and the best group to date is 3 shots at 200 yards .450".  A more averge group is 3 shots at 100 yards .680".

  That's with 200 NP's , RWS brass, 55.0 grains of H-205 powder, Rem 9-1/2 primers all loaded in the gun below with the scope set on 6x.

  For me, i'm fine with 3 shot groups in a hunting rifle, as long as they are consistent, and obviously these are.  This is the only load i've used for the last 20 years and it's put tons of meat in my freezer!

  DM

[Badnews Bob]

I have a Yugo M 48 that will and a 1923  98 That I think will but it has the worst sights on it you ever seen but the rifle is so cool I hate to do anything to it.

[Mr. Joe]

Holy $--t Drilling Man, that is one hell of a 8x57!!!

Is that a 8x57JS or a 8x57JR, and how did you come to aquire it?

[Drilling Man]

Holy $--t Drilling Man, that is one hell of a 8x57!!!   Is that a 8x57JS or a 8x57JR, and how did you come to aquire it?

The gun is a Krieghoff Sempert Drilling 16-16-8x57 jrs that was made in Oct. 1935...

It came to me in 1983 from someone i knew that took it out of a castle durning WW2. He took it durning a "sweep" looking for German soldiers.

By the time i got it, it was pretty beat up with dented shot bbls, blueing loss and a broken stock in several pieces. It had not been fired much but it spent most of it's life getting knocked around in a barn in California. So, i set out rebuilding it to the gun "i always dreamed of owning". I had the work done by those that i thought was best for that part of the job, and it came out quite nice as you can see in the picts. I picked everything from the checkering to choke tubes..

The stock blank i used came to me as a personal gift from Andy Garner, who sawed all of Pachmyrs wood for many, many years. It's a "naturally grafted" Bastone/Circassian walnut blank, that is very rare. Andy told me he had only seen two of them in over 45 years of sawing, so he "saved it for something special".







I've drug this gun from all over the interior of Alaska, to blk. tail hunting in the coastal rain forest, to Texas desert country, to the midwest for whitetails and many other places.

Over the years it's been a VERY effective gun for me, putting tons of meat in my freezer!! Includeing moose, bear, deer, ducks, rabbits, phesants and much more!





  DM

[lgm270]

Drilling Man:

It's a good thing your Drilling was looted from a dirty rotten German instead of a Jew.  If your gun had  been stolen from a Jew instead of a German, you could be sued  and forced to  return it to its lawful owners or their decendants or, alternatively,  to pay  money damages and interest for the last 60 years.

[Mr. Joe]

That is certinly the gun of a lifetime.  My hats off to you for restoring it is beautifuly.

[Drilling Man]

  Thanks Joe,

  I was 8 or 9 when my dad bought a Shooters Bible.  I was looking through it and found a couple pages with drillings on them and try as i might i couldn't talk dad into buying one!  He would just say "they are too expensive"....

  Anyway, i fell in love that day with the idea of owning a drilling, and i spent the following 20+ years dreaming about owning one, untill this one came along.  I've owned several others since, but this one is the "keeper" !!

  BTW, i still have that worn out Shooters Bible too...   

  DM