Moly coating usage today?

[Questor]

There seems to have been quite a backlash against the use of moly coated bullets during the past year or so. Is anyone still using them? Are they being taken off the market?  I have seen quite a few articles and ads related to the difficulties of cleaning moly from rifle bores.

[KN]

I think most have come to realize that the benifits, if any, didn't out weigh the cost and extra work involved with using them.  KN

[dscp]

HOWDY ! DRUGSTORECOWPOKE IS THE NAME AND SHOOTING IS THE GAME ! MANY AMERICANS HAVE GIVEN MUCH ,EVEN ALL- SO THAT WE MAY ALL VOICE OUR PERSONAL OPENIONS . I AM JUST GETTING INTO THE "MOLY" GAME...WORKED TOO MANY HOURS FOR TOO MANY YEARS...AND IT APPEARS TO ME THAT YOU GET OUT OF SOMETHING WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.
     MS.MOLY IS A KINDA PICKEY PERSON AND THINGS MUST BE JUST SO. HOWEVER IF YOU GO TO THE TROUBLE IS SHOULD BE WORTH THE WHILE. AND NO REM. ,WIN., S&W, ETC DO NOT SELL THEIR WARES WITH MOLY (NEITHER AMMO, NOR WEAPONS) . PROBABLY NEVER WILL . TOO MANY VARABLES FOR THE MASSES.
     AS A WRITE THIS I HAVE ORDERS IN AND PENDING TO SWITCH THE MOST OF MY 'SHOOTING IRONS' INTO MOLY . HAND AND SHOLDER FIRED . TOO MANY FOLKS WANT TO SLAP SOMETHING TOGETHER AND IT BE PERFECT. THAT IS SELDOM THE CASE.
I PLAN TO USE MOLY SPRAY(CAREFUL NO GRAPHITE) MY BORES , ONE AT A TIME . AND THEN MOLY MY BULLETS BEFORE RELOADING , CALIBRE BY CALIBRE . TILL ALL DONE .
YOUR BARRELL MUST RETAIN THAT MOLY COAT BUT BE CLEANED AND LUBED BEFORE STORAGE .
MUCH INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE . YOU JUST HAVE TO PICK YOUR WAY THROUGH...GOOGLE...HOW TO MOLY BULLETS...AND OTHER LEADS . READ WHAT IS SAID AND CONSIDER IT. THIS OLD MAN HAS.
happly trailes to you,
dscp

[dscp]

HOWDY ! DRUGSTORECOWPOKE IS THE NAME AND SHOOTING IS THE GAME ! MANY AMERICANS HAVE GIVEN MUCH ,EVEN ALL- SO THAT WE MAY ALL VOICE OUR PERSONAL OPENIONS . I AM JUST GETTING INTO THE "MOLY" GAME...WORKED TOO MANY HOURS FOR TOO MANY YEARS...AND IT APPEARS TO ME THAT YOU GET OUT OF SOMETHING WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.
     MS.MOLY IS A KINDA PICKEY PERSON AND THINGS MUST BE JUST SO. HOWEVER IF YOU GO TO THE TROUBLE IS SHOULD BE WORTH THE WHILE. AND NO REM. ,WIN., S&W, ETC DO NOT SELL THEIR WARES WITH MOLY (NEITHER AMMO, NOR WEAPONS) . PROBABLY NEVER WILL . TOO MANY VARABLES FOR THE MASSES.
     AS A WRITE THIS I HAVE ORDERS IN AND PENDING TO SWITCH THE MOST OF MY 'SHOOTING IRONS' INTO MOLY . HAND AND SHOLDER FIRED . TOO MANY FOLKS WANT TO SLAP SOMETHING TOGETHER AND IT BE PERFECT. THAT IS SELDOM THE CASE.
I PLAN TO USE MOLY SPRAY(CAREFUL NO GRAPHITE) MY BORES , ONE AT A TIME . AND THEN MOLY MY BULLETS BEFORE RELOADING , CALIBRE BY CALIBRE . TILL ALL DONE .
YOUR BARRELL MUST RETAIN THAT MOLY COAT BUT BE CLEANED AND LUBED BEFORE STORAGE .
MUCH INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE . YOU JUST HAVE TO PICK YOUR WAY THROUGH...GOOGLE...HOW TO MOLY BULLETS...AND OTHER LEADS . READ WHAT IS SAID AND CONSIDER IT. THIS OLD MAN HAS.
happly trailes to you,
dscp

[dave375hh]

Questor,
I moly all the bullets and pre-treat the barrels of 5 varmint rifles. The reason is to give me a longer interval between cleanings with out loss of accuracy. One extra benefit a got was that cleaning is much easier and quicker because I don't have copper to clean out of the barrels. I use moly on .22 Hornet. .222 Rem,  22-250, .243, & 6-.284. My change to molycoating came about because of the 22-250 & .222. Both were super accurate for 20-25 rounds then had to be cleaned to maintain accuracy. With the moly the 22-250 is good for 75-80 rounds, and the .222 is good for 55-60 rounds. The moly has done exactly what I wanted and as such is worth the effort to me. The only downside to moly is that it is hygroscopic, (draws moisture from the air). All it takes is to oil the barrel before you put it away, and most of us do that anyway.

[KN]

Dave, Please don't take this as being critical. Thats not my intention. But to me that sounds terrible. I have 6 rifles I use for prarie dogs and every one of them will go 200rds easy between cleanings. These are 17 thru 25-06 calibers. Without molly. If your barrels foul that quickly I would consider lapping them. No rifle should need cleaning that often.

[dave375hh]

KN,
Good for you that your rifles don't need cleaned very often.  Your rifles are not my rifles, and my idea of acceptable accuracy may differ from yours. Why in the world would I need to lap the bore of a rifle that shoots .2's already?

I realize there's no way to know what experience a poster has just from this form, but I assure you I'm no rookie. My rifles get what I think they need and in this case it was molycoating. As I stated it did what I wanted, but it's not magic.

[Catfish]

   I`m totally anti Molly. I used it in 1 rifle, a . mod. 700 Rem. in .17 Rem. and it fouled the barrel far worse than I`ve ever fouled one with copper. The only way I found to get the Molly out was to fire lap the barrel. If you like it Dave more power to you, but I will never fire another Molly coated bullet in any of my rifles again.
   AND WHILE WE`RE ON MOLLY, Can someone explain to me how it can make a bullet slow slick that it reduces the velosity?  That is one I never did understand.

[leverfan]

AND WHILE WE`RE ON MOLLY, Can someone explain to me how it can make a bullet slow slick that it reduces the velosity?  That is one I never did understand.

The lubrication allows the bullet to leave the case neck and start down the bore much more easily than a non-moly coated bullet.  This in turn means that it starts down the barrel before the powder has a chance to develope the same pressures as it does behind an un-treated bullet.  Smokeless powder generates energy much more efficiently when it burns under higher pressures.  When moly coated bullets get moving before the powder has a chance to build up to optimum pressures, the powder isn't able to efficiently provide as much energy to the moly coated bullet as it does to an uncoated bullet.  Gliding slickly down the moly lubed barrel doesn't always compensate for this initial pressure loss, so you may end up with lower velocity, along with a lower peak pressure.  If you simply must have the extra few feet per second worth of velocity, you can up your powder charge slightly, or change powders.

That's how I've always understood it, anyway.  I don't use moly coating myself, as it doesn't contribute anything of sufficient value to the types of shooting I do.