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Offline brasskeeper

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need advice on where to start.
« on: September 23, 2006, 03:52:32 PM »
Hi folks,  I have become interested in building a percusion rifle myself and need some advice. im not real good with wood so I would need a stock that would not need much work to fit the parts but I can sand and finish my self. I dont really like the kits that Ive seen and I like the Idea of picking parts out my self so it would be uniqe. What do you think of a smooth bore so I can shoot shot or round balls? If you have a favorite place to buy parts let me know.
Any advice and or information would be appreciated. 

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Re: need advice on where to start.
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2006, 02:34:39 AM »
Sounds like you need a  "In the white" rifle.  It is totally built, you disassemble it, sand, finish, brown the barrel & reassemble it.  If you want a good one, call Tip Curtis Frontier Shop at  615-654-4445.  Tip usually has about 50 rifles in the white built & ready to ship in a variaty of styles.  If you want a cheap one go to Midsouth Shooters Supply & buy a GPR kit.  There is no comparison of the two but ya get what ya pay for.

As for the smoothbore, personally you could not give me one. Ya need rifling to shoot accurately & if not all rifles would be smoothbores.  Also, out of the hundreds of guys I have known that have owned them, I only know one guy in the past 30+ years of shooting ML's that still shoots a smoothbore.  All the others went back to rifles after the new wore off.  ;)
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Re: need advice on where to start.
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2006, 04:22:44 AM »
 i would agree with birddog on the  purchasing a gun in the white . any other builder kit will require    some inletting and shaping  of most all the components .
 Its not hard , just takes time to do right .

 Where  birddog and I will split company  is on the smooth bore . Their versatility is why even today they are still being  used as trade items  in south America to the native peoples there .
Most of the big game hunting I do “ elk and mule deer “ here in Idaho  seem to to give ranges of  well past what I feel its acceptable to shoot any muzzleloader or muzzleloading weapon  or ranges well within both  my smooth bore and rifle range
 I  will admit that when I want to hunt   or shoot at longer distances IE 100 yards  I use my rifle . Not because its more accurate at that distance  but because “ im” more accurate with it at that distance ..
 Myself I have shot smooth bore for some ? 10 ,,12 years . I have shoot against dyed in the wool smoothbore shooters that can and do hold their own  against rifle shooters  and have found myself soundly whipped by such fellas on more then a few occasions . Myself , the best I can  do is hold a  3 inch group at 50 yards , most any day .
 Last weekend I did shoot a clover leaf at 50  but I will say that’s the first time I ever was able to do that . I was playing with loads , patches and wad combos  . And suddenly it just showed up on the paper . Luck ???? Maybe , only more shooting will tell.

Smooth bore takes practice , lots of it  to be good  with it . However when that happens you can laugh at those who need a crutch like rifling to  place your shot ? LMAO” just joking birddog .

 On top of all the above you get to shoot shot .  Think of turkey hunting , squirrels , rabbits, quail ,ducks ,geese , all with one gun .

 Last piece of advice I can give you would be to remember this . Hunting with a muzzleloader isn’t about  a couple minutes or hours at the range a year.  No mater if you chose a smooth bore or a rifled barrel , they both take practice . You will need to work up and find a load  that not only has accuracy but meets your needs. Again that makes no mater if your shooting a round ball , conical or shot .
  Then  you need practice to be proficient in the weapon 
Lastly this  IMO there is  nothing more graceful then  a long gun  properly built .  It will have the lines of a fine lady , well proportioned and delicate .   The feel in your hands is something that truly must be experienced  and when you pull that trigger  and the girl gives attitude  it’ll bring a tear to your eye and a smile to your face .

 Other time  you just wanta @##$^% slap   the thing LOL . Naaa not really .

 What ever you decide , im sure will fit  your wants right now .
 Ohhhh ha I just remembered something , birddog6 also makes some  real nice guns , gotta any smooth bores laying around you shoppe the birddog ?
 I go a little 2/3 scale NW trade gun sitting there right now   for a little fella . Guess he doesn’t know about rifling yet ??? OHHHPS lol  seems I built him a long rifle last year :-* :(  LOL ahhahh  be good birddog , good to read a post from you . ;)
 

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Re: need advice on where to start.
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2006, 04:37:28 AM »
Thanks captchee

 I dont need to shoot farther than 50 yards as it is very thick where I hunt. I like the abillity to use shot for turkeys for turkeys.

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Re: need advice on where to start.
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2006, 09:56:45 AM »
with practice ,  you will find a smooth bore shooting round balls  very acurate  under that range.
 on the shot  side   if you take the time ,  do some testing with diffrent wads , cards and shot you will find that the cylinder bore  can give a very acceptable patern out to 30 yards

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Re: need advice on where to start.
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2006, 10:23:26 AM »
If you want a beautiful gun, go to www.flintlocks.com

This is Jim Chambers Flintlocks Limited, Candler NC.
I have visited Jim's shop. What a bunch of beautiful rifles and smoothbores! He is very dedicated. All his guns are historically accurate. They are expensive.
Aim small don't miss.