CAUTION, Redhawk1's method works good and I use it myself, BUT be careful. When you get that length, the bullet is touching the rifling. Back off that length a few thousandths or reduce charge if you are anywhere near max. Firing with the bullet touching the rifling WILL increase pressure. Hope I didn't step on toes here, but there is a nasty picture on a nearby thread that none of us want to experience. THANKS, Walt :wink: