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Offline Lone Yankee

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a 6 cavity .32-20 mould from Lee
« on: April 11, 2003, 04:40:17 PM »
How many pards would like to see Lee make a two grooved 115 gr RNFP 6 cavity bullet mould.  I am tired of using a 2 cavity.  The .32 moulds they have now are not suitable for use in lever action rifles.

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Re: a 6 cavity .32-20 mould from Lee
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2003, 05:53:10 AM »
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How many pards would like to see Lee make a two grooved 115 gr RNFP 6 cavity bullet mould.  I am tired of using a 2 cavity.  The .32 moulds they have now are not suitable for use in lever action rifles.

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Why aren't they suitable? Exactly what characteristics do you need and why?
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« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2003, 06:02:53 AM »
I checked Lee's web page and it appears that all their .32 bullets have a round nose, a no-no for lever action.  What is called for is a RNFP (round nose, flap point).  This so the nose of a bullet doesn't press directly on the primer of the one ahead of it in the tube.
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« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2003, 07:31:17 AM »
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I checked Lee's web page and it appears that all their .32 bullets have a round nose, a no-no for lever action.  What is called for is a RNFP (round nose, flap point).  This so the nose of a bullet doesn't press directly on the primer of the one ahead of it in the tube.


I respectfully disagree.  The cautions I have seen call flat points or blunt roundnose in tube magazine rifles.  Factory RN loads for the .30-30 and .25-35 were once plentiful. They may still be, but it's been years since I bought factory ammo. Lord knows I have fed 100 and 117 grain RN through a .25-35 Improved by the hundred.

With a pipsqueak round like the .32-20, I would be wholly unconcerned using RN cast rounds. The recoil simply is not sufficient to cause enough inertia to fire a primer. (I would not try using pulled FMJ from the .30 Carbine, however.)

If this still concerns you, simply put a flat nose punch in your sizer, cast your bullets on the soft side and adjust the stop to swage a small flat on the bullet nose at the bottom of the stroke.
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« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2003, 11:40:52 AM »
I guess to each his own.  I am the one that tumbles the reloaded rounds to get the lube off them--been drug through the coals for that one a few times.  
My post was to bring attention to the concern about RN in lever actions.  And I, too, use RNFP, just because it seems to make sense not to be pushing on a primer--this in a .45LC.  But as I have no first hand experience with the .32's I'll bow to those more knowledgeable about that round.
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« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2003, 06:00:01 AM »
Cheyenne,

The idea of a bullet resting against a primer bothered me at one time, too, which is why I did some checking on it. In the smaller calibers, the bullet has to rest on a primer in a straight tube mag. Any ogive at all makes a .25 bullet nose smaller than a large rifle primer. The meplat has to be larger than a quarter inch to bridge the primer pocket. Yet, .25-35s are and always have been loaded with RN bullets.

As long as the bullet does not dent the primer, the primer will not go off. With an exposed lead surface that is fairly blunt, the lead will flatten long before it will dent the primer. The major factories have depended on this for over 100 years and they continue to load RN bullets in cartridges for rifles with tube magazine. If it's safe enough for them, it's safe enough for me.

The only magazine explosions I have heard of with RN bullets involved FMJs. Those were handloaders putting 265 FMJs in .44 mag and shooting them in the little Ruger semi-auto carbine. I suppose one could also run into trouble using a very pointed RN cast from straight lino or water quenched wheelweights. That might make them hard enough to dent a primer.

Just out of curiousity, I took some very pointed bullets cast of air cooled WW and put flats on the point. I was set up to size using a Lee push through, put a bullet on the pedestal and a flat piece of steel across the die. Moderate force gave me nice uniform flats ahout the size of a small primer and did not seem to deform the body of the bullet at all. They went through the sizer with the normal amount of effort.
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