went to the range today .I wanted to test the fn's in my whelen by shooting into water jugs and see what the bullet looked like . Well 7 gallon jugs later no bullet!!? the 1st 3 jugs were shredded,the next 3 had slits in them. The last jug had a tiny slit near the bottom. All I could find was the gas check at the end of the 3rd jug.Okay! Lets try wet phone books.I soaked 20 inches of phone books in a plastic trash bag for 5 hours.Placed them on the table at 25 yards and shot a round at them. I got 19 inches of penetration ,a 3/4" hole with a large 2-3" wound channel for about 6-8". I then shot an unmodified RN 358318 at the bale. It went out the back,a full 20" of penetration. The wound channel was slightly smaller than the FN the exit hole was about 1/2" where the FN was about 3/4". The Fn weighed 245 as shot ,recovered 195 and the check was gone. The expanded dia was about .4. The Rn was less than 3 inches under the dirt about 8 feet behind the bale. It weighed 250 as shot and 116.7 recovered. The load is 44/varget/WLR.The book says it should be going 2000 to 2050.but the chrono is busted (bad WIRES).This load feels like it is faster than that though. by the way ,they shoot into 1 1/4 inch 5 shot groups at 50 yards, the rn's do better!