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   As a conservative Christian, are you more or less likely to vote this time around ?

   It is quite clear that the Dems hope that many of us will "stay home" on election day, due to the Foley scandal.
 
 Acvtually, i plan on urging other Christians who may not feel compelled to show..to do so !
 
  This "exposure" of one person caught up in sin...and it's "timely announcement' of the scandal, should alert us to the degrading derpths the Democrats will go to in order to gain power.
 
  Strange;..the Democrats have always embraced homosexuality..now they hate it !...Guess that just proves they are just "using" gays..same as they are "using' so many of their splinter support groups !
 

  They simply cannot win in the arena of ideas..so they are attempting to woo over the gossip monger types and discourage the Christian right.
 
  They would like to see us stay home...so the party of Gerry Studds, Barney Frank and Bill Clinton can ascend the stairs to power.

   Gerry Studds had a 17 yr old page boy lover, announced it openly and went home to Massachusetts and an "honorary" parade.
  He was re-elected and stayed in the house for more terms..

  Barney Frank had a gay prostitution ring operating out of his basement...he's still in congress.

  And Bill Clinton..with ditzy internes..and lying to us about it !

   Christians stay home...not on your life !! we should be more invigorated than ever..to keep these double-standard hypocrites away from power..dealing in slander, innuendo and  "October surprises" is enough to disqualify them for honorable office.

  If you can..do your best to energize folks in your sphere to vote for the " friendly to Christians" folks..at least the lesser of the two evils..
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Re: Conservative Christians..are you more or less likely to vote..
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2006, 02:24:42 AM »
Ironglow.  You are dead on in your assessment of the situatiuon, however, it should come as no surprise.  most every president, with perhapl the exception of Carter, is guilty of type of sexual involvement.  I am not saying it is right, but we have avoided the issue for so long that it will take a complete house cleaning to eliminate it now.

Point is, it makes no difference what kind of imiage they attempt to project during election periods, you never know what you have voted for until they take office.

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Re: Conservative Christians..are you more or less likely to vote..
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2006, 02:31:50 AM »
President, did I miss something?
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« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2006, 02:34:42 AM »
OK, Lets say elected officals period.  I used Presidents as an example because Billy was mentioned, but this has been going on since day one at all levels of government.

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« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2006, 02:50:19 AM »
Voting has NEVER been a problem with me, Its the lack of voting that always amazes me ???  JIM

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Re: Conservative Christians..are you more or less likely to vote..
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2006, 04:16:11 AM »
Sorry to disappoint the hopeful lefties, but any political momentum that could be gained from the Foley scandal evaporated when he resigned.

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Re: Conservative Christians..are you more or less likely to vote..
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2006, 06:23:48 AM »
I will vote!But what upsets me is some of the people running our Government, Federal, State, and Local are sexual perverts,drunks, and carpetbaggers.So we really don't know the person we are voting for.
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« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2006, 12:58:32 PM »
I'll vote - Just hope that it will be FOR someone this time!
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Re: Conservative Christians..are you more or less likely to vote..
« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2006, 05:28:02 PM »
I'll vote, I allways vote. One right I'll always use. Gives me the right to speak out when I agree or disagree and just maybe to change things if only in a microscopic way that I don't like. VOTE!

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« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2006, 03:17:51 AM »
If scandals in politics were to disuade informed people from voting, the right to vote would have been abandoned a long time ago.  Sure, I'll vote and hope that those I vote for win--even if, in time, they prove to be a disappointment.  That's the risk we take in our system and that is no big surprise, because those we vote for are humans and none of them are perfect.

I hedge my vote a bit though, by never voting for a Dumbycrat; I know for a certainty that anyone who calls himself/herself a Democrat is flawed from the gitgo.  That's my opinion and I'm welcome to it.
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« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2006, 11:17:18 AM »
I have been a voter for near 50 years, and have voted in every local and national election possible.  The problem with voting for the past few years, as I see it, is not voting for a canidate of choice, but selecting the lessor of two evils. 

I have voiced this many times, it is a sad state of affairs when a country selects a Miss America from a field of 50+ beautiful young ladies, BUT selects a President from the lessor of two bums.  jmho.

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« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2006, 11:24:10 AM »
I vote @ every opportunity. I think it is important to vote for the person not the party. On a national level I tend to agree with the Republicans most. On a local level I tend to vote Democrat.

There are many Republicans who are RINOs and democrats who are DINOs. I know several around here who will not change their party because of yellow dog democrats. Good people who wouldnt get elected if they changed the initial behind their name.
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« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2006, 01:13:05 PM »
Waitasec. Foley's shenanigans are all a Democrat plot?

Kinda like Clinton's were a Republican plot.


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« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2006, 05:31:07 PM »
Nabob;

  I re=read all the posts thusfar and didn't find any mention of Foley's proclivities being a Democrat plot..where did you read that ?  Even in my post; I was simply pointing that the Dems HOPE we will stay home because of the scandal..
 
  As I explained , I find it curious indeed that the party that has perennially endorsed homosexuality...now finds it to be so abhorrent..LOL
  Clearly Foley is a pervert..and a Republican one..I don't blame the Democrats for that...but I don't blame Hastert, Reynolds or any other Republican for it either..his perversion is his own..

 I am consistant..I didn't blame all Democrats for Studd's lover, Barney's business venture or for Clinton stuffing the face of an interne..
 
 Shucks..I didn't even blame the Democrats for Old Teddy's experiment in canal hopping with a campaign gal...or for Hillary's pal ending up dead in FT Marcy Park !
 
  Of course, as it comes to light, the timing is very opportune..but Republicans should realize what Soros and the rest of his gang of Marxist-inclined Democrats are up to. There is no dirt too dirty or secrets safe with thier costly probing..that continues day and night inevery nook, cranny and sewer they can slither into !

  Somewhat like the Lawton Chiles vs Jeb Bush election..Chiles cut forth with some huge lie about Bush's moral status just one day before the election. Early enough for the partisan media to ballyhoo, but too late to prove as a lie.
 
  It was proven as a complete fabrication..but only after Chiles won the election !

  Christians..if you are even thinking of "staying home"..just remember the really great events of W's terms..some fine Supreme Court justices..vote for more of them , if nothing else..
 
The big lie didn't help Chiles much..as I recall the Lord saw to it that he didn't complete the term..and now Jeb is Gov.
 
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« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2006, 11:02:11 PM »
Where do I get the idea that someone thinks this is a Democrat plot? Right here, ironglow:

"This "exposure" of one person caught up in sin...and it's "timely announcement' of the scandal, should alert us to the degrading derpths the Democrats will go to in order to gain power."

My conclusion is reinforced by statements such as "Of course, as it comes to light, the timing is very opportune..but Republicans should realize what Soros and the rest of his gang of Marxist-inclined Democrats are up to." 

"The big lie didn't help Chiles much..as I recall the Lord saw to it that he didn't complete the term..and now Jeb is Gov."

Are you suggesting God killed Lawton Chiles because of political rumormongering?


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« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2006, 02:46:47 AM »
I have been a voter for near 50 years, and have voted in every local and national election possible.  The problem with voting for the past few years, as I see it, is not voting for a canidate of choice, but selecting the lessor of two evils. 

I have voiced this many times, it is a sad state of affairs when a country selects a Miss America from a field of 50+ beautiful young ladies, BUT selects a President from the lessor of two bums.  jmho.

There's one in the X ring.

I had a polester call yesterday........Told him I planned on voting for the Republican Candidate (Bob Corker) but it really won't break my heart if the Republicans lost and got what they deserved.  Told her I was very disapointed with the current set of Republicans.

If there were a liberatarian on the ballot I sure vote that way......as neither party deserves my vote.
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« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2006, 05:40:10 AM »
If all the Dems can come up with is one pervert out of the Republican party,
The Republican party must be doing better than I thought!!!
You better believe I will VOTE !
and I will Vote REPUBLICAN !!!!
Do I like all of the Republican Candidates?
NO ....
DO I know where "ANY" Democrats stand on ANYTHING?
NO ...
Do I believe any of the polls I see on the news?
NO ....
Thus I will vote Republican !!!
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« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2006, 05:48:03 AM »
  Nabob..
  I made it clear that Foley's  "shenanigans"..your words..were his own. It seems that you are the one confounded by your own terms..

   The effort to find and expose dirt..especially at a most opportune time..is obviously a Demo move . It is well known that Soros has a wholw battery of lawyers and detectives trying full time to dig up dirt.

  I believe the Repubs would do the same..but dirt doesn't work as well against a Demo candidate..

  Uncover a Democrat that is a  homosexual, adulterer, Marxist, NAMBLA type,Luddite, drunk, druggie, one that curses his own country in foreign media, or one that endorses killing of pre-borns, handicapped....or soon..the aged...and all one gets from the "party faithful" is a collective yawn..

   Nope; moral depravity is a charge that only works against Repubs...hmmm

  According to most Dems..kill preborn boys & girls ( evn while being born), kill the handicapped (like Terry Schaivo)...but don't you dare suggest that any mass murderer or serial killer be executed....

  NOW...HOW COOL IS THAT ?
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« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2006, 05:55:11 AM »
Well, you also made it clear that the reason all this has been brought to light is a plot by the Democrats, not just because of the actions of an individual Congressman. Maybe you are confounded by your own terms?

You seem to find a Democratic conspiracy at the heart of making a Republican look bad. I think it has more to do with a Republican ACTING badly. Or perhaps things would be preferable if no one had found out?  I seem to recall a certain Republican crusade against one Bill Clinton, based on his sexual activities. Guess sauce for the goose tastes different when fed to the gander?

Maybe all this is a vast, left-wing conspiracy? Or maybe the Dems took a page out of the Republican playbook? Who knows? I do find it interesting to watch this being spun as a Democrat plot, though. Now, apparently, Republicans aren't to be held accountable for their own actions without that being somehow a ploy by the opposition.




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« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2006, 11:38:12 PM »
It is impossible to know the private lies/lives of most when we vote for them.
It should be the stance we vote for.
I do not like voting for a party---that seems to take the vote out of my hand and put it in the hand of some committee. To much chance for outside control of the party.
I vote for some democrats and will again.
Just a view---maybe there should not be allowed a control by one party in the House or Senate. Maybe there should be equal balance. Well, at least there might be less done---that would not be a bad thing.
Undestand the issues. Know the candidates, as best you can.---On a side note. I would have thought the voters from Foley's district would have known his inclinations. Maybe they did and it did not matter to them--Hummmm---VOTE.
Now, in TEXAS, by GOD, who do I vote for for Gov.?
The choices are like sharks teeth--many. And like a blind date. I don't care for the choices. Kinky Friedman????  Might get my vote---at least he has no cronies in the Government.
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« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2006, 01:32:45 AM »
The strategy of the liberals is to get Values Voters so disgusted and discouraged that they will not vote. If that happens, the liberals will have achieved their goal and they will be running our country.

Here is what we can expect if the liberals win:



Amnesty for 12,000,000 illegal immigrants.

A push to make homosexual marriage and polygamy legal in all 50 states.

Only liberal judges will be appointed. They will create laws to implement the social agenda liberals cannot get passed through the legislative process.

Liberals will make the killing of the unborn more difficult to stop.

Liberals will continue to try to rid our society of Christian influence, including any reference to God in our Pledge and on our currency.

A return to the "Fairness Doctrine" in broadcasting where opposing views must be given equal time. Every conservative talk show host will be forced to give a liberal equal time on every issue. The purpose of this rule will be to shut down conservative talk shows.

An increase in taxes to push new social programs.

Passing a new "hate crimes" law making it illegal to refer to homosexuality in a negative manner.

Liberals will give terrorists from other countries who try to kill Americans the same rights American citizens enjoy under our constitution.

We will withdraw from Iraq, sending the message to the terrorists that if they will just be patient they can win and bring their terrorist acts to the U.S.

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« Reply #21 on: October 12, 2006, 02:39:30 AM »
No doubt the Dems have an unacceptable agenda........but the republicans arn't doing a darn thing about illegal immigration and are disgusting as well. 

The sneak and peek searches and wire taps wouldn't bother me near as much if the borders were secure.  It's still a loss of liberty, but during a time of war a case can be made......

It's hard for me to willingly sacrifice my liberty while 12 million illegals cross the border.

This is "double speak" coming out both sides of the mouth.

Once again, forced to choose between the lesser of two evils........

No libertarians on the ballet here.........and given the choice I'll be forced to vote Republican....but I don't like it......
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« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2006, 02:52:42 AM »
If scandals in politics were to disuade informed people from voting, the right to vote would have been abandoned a long time ago.  Sure, I'll vote and hope that those I vote for win--even if, in time, they prove to be a disappointment.  That's the risk we take in our system and that is no big surprise, because those we vote for are humans and none of them are perfect.

I hedge my vote a bit though, by never voting for a Dumbycrat; I know for a certainty that anyone who calls himself/herself a Democrat is flawed from the gitgo.  That's my opinion and I'm welcome to it.

Personally, I have never missed voting in an election........... and I have never voted for a Democrat.............. neither of these two things is likely to change barring death or disability......... and I doubt either of those would stop me..........  :o :o ;D :D ;)

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« Reply #23 on: October 12, 2006, 03:01:46 AM »
Brett, everything you mentioned is pretty much right on, but you forgot the main thing.  When liberals get control, the Second Amendment is toast.

Victorcharlie, maybe the Republicans aren't moving along as fast as we would like on border security and illegal immigration, but to say that they aren't doing anything is dead wrong.  One thing is absolutely for sure and that is that the Dems will do nothing that would possibly upset what they think is one of their new voting bases--the immigrants.

To say that you are forced to choose the lesser of two evils, doesn't really begin to describe the choices.  The Republicans have problems, but compared to the Dumbycrats, they are a no-brainer choice--at least for me.  Maybe that didn't come out the way I intended it; I didn't mean that the Republicans have no brains--well there are some of them that I have some serious doubts about.  On the other hand, there are precious few Dumbycrats who I believe possess anything more than a stem.
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« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2006, 03:44:51 PM »
  Right now, the stock market is at an all time high...Libs get in =high taxes..kiss the stock market goodbye.

  We got a couple of sensible, God fearing..pro 2nd amendment judges..Libs get in..we will get judges that act like Kim Jung Il..

 If the Libs get in you may have a queer leading your choir in church..while an Imam must be allowed to speak every quarter ( to promote "diversity")

  Last but not least..expect a mass exodus from the armed services if the libs get in. Our fighting men are overwhelmingly conservative, to a man..that is exactly why Algore tried his best to suppress the military vote in 2000..
   Our courageous Soldiers and Marines don't mind fighting but they don't want to be held accountable to any lefty world court..
 
   ..And they wouldn't like to have the rug pulled from under them as was done to the troops in Vietnam..
   
   Hey, maybe our wars will have to be fought by troops that are libs...hah ! some troops they would make...LOL
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« Reply #25 on: October 12, 2006, 10:32:11 PM »
I've never read so much nonsense in my entire life. Do you folks really believe this stuff? I don't support either party but the lengths to which both will go to try to scare their supporters into voting a particular way, is absolutely mind boggling. Gays leading your church choir practice? The army quitting? I can't believe that mature adults will swallow this sort of stuff whole.

Scare tactics, guys. That's all this is. The Dems do the same with their hot button issues. According to them, Republicans are out to gut Social Security, take control over women's bodies, indoctrinate our children to inform on their parents, etc.

Anybody want to actually talk about real issues facing this country or do we just want to try to manipulate them by using fearmongering?

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« Reply #26 on: October 13, 2006, 03:07:31 AM »
Well nabob, maybe you should take a look at what the libs view on immigration is; what they want to do with guns; whose taxes they would like to raise; what kind of vehicles we would have to choose from if they have their way.

Maybe you don't care about queers marrying queers, but some of us believe that is allowing deviant behavior to creep even further into acceptance.

I don't think the Republicans have always done what I would have done, but compared to the Democrats of today, especially the leadership...actually what we're talking about is plain old socialists, or more correctly, communists.  They believe in socialized medicine, business being strictly controlled by government, schools that are more like indoctrination centers, redistribution of wealth and on and on.

View this as scare tactics if you will, but just don't try to claim that there is no difference between the parties.
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« Reply #27 on: October 13, 2006, 03:09:06 AM »
Well nabob, maybe you should take a look at what the libs view on immigration is; what they want to do with guns; whose taxes they would like to raise; what kind of vehicles we would have to choose from if they have their way.

Maybe you don't care about queers marrying queers, but some of us believe that is allowing deviant behavior to creep even further into acceptance.

I don't think the Republicans have always done what I would have done, but compared to the Democrats of today, especially the leadership...actually what we're talking about is plain old socialists, or more correctly, communists.  They believe in socialized medicine, business being strictly controlled by government, schools that are more like indoctrination centers, redistribution of wealth and on and on.

View this as scare tactics if you will, but just don't try to claim that there is no difference between the parties.
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« Reply #28 on: October 13, 2006, 03:36:00 AM »
   Nabob;
  
  A) Are the lefties infatuated wuith the UN or not ? Haven't they already handed ove US parks and landmarks to UN control ?

   B) Left leaning/appointed  judges in both circuit and Supreme court have already cited Euro/world court decisions when explaining how they decided on domestic issues.
  
     They apparently forgot..we already have a Constitution..

   C) Christians; The lefties are ALWAYS pushing for "anti discrimination" laws..and we already know how they feel about Christian issues.
  
 How many leftist orgnizations have fought to keep the 10 commandments in posted local courts. as they are in the Supreme court ?

  Whiole lefties fight to keep "religion" out of govt...how many of them have fought to keep govt out of religion ?

  One leftist ACLU.. fought to get Korans into the Gitmo jail (at taxpayers expense)..while they also fought to keep  Bibles out of other jails.

   ...Just look what they did to Catholic adoption services in Mass..you being RC, may know better than others about that !
  
 ) How do you feel about women as priests ? If you haven't seen those court cases, where have you been ?

   If the lefties get in strongly..People for the unAmerican way, Gangs for sep of Church & State , and Ted Soros' billions will help the push...And you know..where billion$$ talk, politicians listen..
  
   D)  The failed "Kyoto Accord"..had he been in office, Clinton would have signed the Kyoto treaty..the one that allows places like China & India to continue polluting as long as they feel necessary but put the US under the most stringent ecomania rules of all nations. While the Euros condemn Pres Bush for not signing on..the US has come closer to meeeting the requirements than all of Europe (by scientific testing)

  Had the libs been in control with Clinton..they would have signed on
   E) The military...Have you forgotten what the lefties tried to do to Spec.Micheal Neu..when he refused to serve for the UN ?
  
  I don't know about you..but each time I was sworn into military service, I swore to "protect and defend" the Constitution of the United States. Didn't say a thing about the UN Charter.. If that were the case , I would have not taken any oath..

  F)  Heretofore, the US troops have been serving as peacekeepers under UN auspices. Kofi Annan has a  bureaucratic brainchild of his, the "International Criminal Court" serving as the judicial branch of the UN.
  
   So far, the US under conservative leaderrship has exempted US troops from being "tried" by this court. Annan has campaigned against that exemption...and won. Unless the US react firmly and decisively..our troops will be tried by judges from places like Iran, Namibia, Venezuela, Djbouti and North Korea...and that without appeal..

    Who is more likely to cross political swords with the UN..the lefties or the righties ?..You and I both know....

  One would have to have a very short memory indeed, if they can't recall how military personnel were exiting the servicres under Bill Clinton ! Especially the highly skilled types like pilots etc...
  
   Do we not recall hearing GW Bush while campaigning. asking the military to hang on a bit longer, because "help is coming"..

  Democrats have always been handy at underfunding the military ( they don't like the military ...now they have already admitted that they want to "cut and run". Since they are not the C in C..this means ..cut off funds for the war..and see our troops humiliated, same as the Democrats did to them in Vietnam...

  G) Taxes..Sharpton,Reid, Pelosi and many other Democrats have ALREADY SAID they are going to reinstate the crippling taxes that they had previously burdened businesses and working people with..the rest of the Dems, we know from experience, agree..but can't get elected if they admit it openly !
  
   When the "death tax" and "marriage penalty tax"..among many others is reinstated..anyone with a modicum of gray matter can see what will happen to our presently "record breaking" stock market..

  H) Then there's the second amendment..Guess I don't have to say a word here..


  

 I could go on..and on...and on... but what's the use...if someone doesn't "get it" by now..they never will..
If you don't want the truth, don't ask me.  If you want something sugar coated...go eat a donut !  (anon)

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Re: Conservative Christians..are you more or less likely to vote..
« Reply #29 on: October 13, 2006, 11:13:05 AM »
The same could be said about your position, ironglow. If you don't get how the Republicans have used scare tactics to manipulate you by now, you never will.

1) Is the left fascinated with the UN? I dunno. When I look at the UN, I see an organization that can't find its butt with both hands and a flashlight, so I guess I don't much care if they are fascinated or not. And no, the last I looked, blue hats are not running the US parks or national landmarks. What you are probably talking about is the World Heritage Site designation of some places here in the US. The designation is symbolic, not authoritative, and nothing in the treaty prevents them from being managed by the US through our local laws. The National Park Service has this to say about your fears:

"Under the terms of the Convention, each nation retains full sovereignty and management authority over its sites. For more information on the World Heritage Convention and a complete list of US World Heritage sites, please visit the website at: http://www.nps.gov/oia/topics/heritage.htm"

Go to the link and you'll find this:

"Each signatory to the Convention maintains sovereignty over its sites, is responsible for their protection, and pledges to assist others in preservation efforts. Direct authority over individual properties remains with the national, state, tribal, or local government or private organization in charge."

Seems like the National Park Service sees no diminution of local authority.

2) Explanations of votes by citing international decisions is not the same as basing one's vote on those decisions. Dicta are not part of the decision itself, as I understand it. And you might want to consider that of the three judges (O'Connor, Kennedy and Breyer), who are the Supreme Court judges that have used this argument from international law most in their explanations, two were both appointed by that ol' leftie, Ronald Reagan (gasp!!) Maybe we should be keeping an eye on the right, eh? LOL!!!

3) Last I looked, the ACLU wasn't running for anything. Neither were any other liberal organizations. I don't support these organizations, either.

4) How do I feel about women as priests? I don't much care one way or the other, personally. However, I recognize the example set by Jesus when choosing a replacement for Judas. He had an opportunity to make Mary Theotokos one of the Apostles. He did not. Here is the most honored woman in history,  the Mother of God himself, and he choose not to make her an apostle. I find that to be pretty persuasive that other duties in the spreading of the word of God are set aside for women.

What does that have to do with anything? If you are suggesting that somehow, the US Congress is going to pass some sort of law saying that Catholics must accept women as priests, I guess that all I can say is "who told you such nonsense?" Seems to me the First Amendment kinda stands in the way.

5) Kyoto? Well, I don't support Kyoto. I support the RGGI approach (Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative). Clinton would have signed it but Clinton isn't running for President. How about we wait until the Dems actually develop a platform before condemning them for a position? The 2004 Democratic platform never mentions Kyoto. Sounds like another boogeyman being conjured here.

6) The oath Michael New took also says "I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and those officers appointed over me." He was given a lawful order and refused to obey.

7) You think that only the Republicans will protect our soldiers from the International Criminal Court? Guess again. The US was one of only seven nations to vote against the "Rome Statute". When did this happen? 1998. Who was President? (drumroll please!) CLINTON!!! Maybe there is bipartisan support for protecting our soldiers?

8) Don't make me laugh about how Democrats somehow cut the legs out from under the Vietnam War. First, Nixon was elected in 1968 promising a "secret plan" to get us out of Vietnam in a short time frame. Kissinger spent years trying to work out a deal. Seems like maybe Republicans wanted out as well, so tasking the Dems with losing the war is ridiculous.

9) Taxes. Well, Dems used to be called "tax and spend liberals". Seems better than the "spend spend spend but put the bill onto the next generation" Republicans. Pick your poison, both are bad. Setting one up as superior to the other is downright funny.

10) The Second Amendment. Well, I live in a state that is pretty danged restrictive insofar as gun laws go and I still have plenty, so I'm not that concerned. Just not a big issue for me because I live with more restrictions than almost any other state so far as I know and no one has come around yet to tell me to hand it over.

I don't have a dog in this hunt. I vote Libertarian. However, I just love the way these campfire ghost stories get played out this time of year. Honestly, I think you guys should sleep with the lights on!!

BOO!!