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Newbie question about barrels
« on: October 11, 2006, 10:26:06 AM »
A week ago I picked up a ultra slugger 12 guage. I was wondering what barrels would fit the receiver if any. I tryed searching but the search feature is useless. I was hoping to find a rifle barrel for small game and target.

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Re: Newbie question about barrels
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2006, 10:32:36 AM »
Welcome to GBO! The only other barrels that will fit is the 20ga slug barrel and the 10ga barrels(I think!), the USHs are built on 10ga frames, so  no other barrels can be fitted to it. H&R won't fit any rifle barrel to a shotgun frame.

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Re: Newbie question about barrels
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2006, 11:07:44 AM »
Thats a bummer. Thanks for the link but I am still a little confused. Can you fit the 12ga ultra slugger on the rifle receiver? I think it says the 20ga ultra will fit but it doesn't look like the 12 will. Anyways, I guess I will be buying a new gun. I am unsure what caliber to get though. Whats a fun centerfire round for small game/target (100-200 yards)? I know .223 will be suggested but what else? Sorry for the newbie questions, I'm sure they get asked all the time. I have been reading the boards for about a week now and still haven't found all the info I am interested in knowing.

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Re: Newbie question about barrels
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2006, 11:56:39 AM »
.22 Hornet is the way to go.

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Re: Newbie question about barrels
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2006, 12:03:57 PM »
Thats a bummer. Thanks for the link but I am still a little confused. Can you fit the 12ga ultra slugger on the rifle receiver?


No, I'm pretty sure the USH barrels are made from the 10ga profile blanks, they're too big in diameter to fit a rifle frame which is meant to use barrels that measure a little over 1.1" in diameter at the chamber. Maybe someone that actually has one can clarify this for ya. ;D

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Re: Newbie question about barrels
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2006, 12:30:37 PM »
22 hornet, 22-250, or 243 are good if you reload if not i would go with the 223

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Re: Newbie question about barrels
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2006, 01:24:20 PM »
Quick
Thanks for all the info.

Swamp & Cowboy
Thanks for the suggestions.

It looks like I am gonna have to lean towards the .223. I want the 22-250 but I am not set up to reload. Is it expensive to get a decent set up? Also any oppinions on the .223 vs. the 22-250? Range wise are they about the same?

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Re: Newbie question about barrels
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2006, 01:31:59 PM »
A 12 USH is a 10ga blank on a 10ga receiver. ONLY a 10ga bbl could be fit.

A 20ga USH is a 12ga blank on a std shotgun (SB1) receiver. So ONLY a shotgun bbl could be fit.

Rifles are on a SB2 frame BUT shotgun bbl COULD be fit to a SB2 as well.

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Re: Newbie question about barrels
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2006, 01:36:19 PM »
Here's a ballistic comparison of the .22-250 to the .223. A better comparison would be the .204 Ruger to the .22-250, the .223 gets left in the dust at longer ranges but has other admirable qualities such as cheaper to reload for or buy ammo if you don't handload. The answer is all of them, starting with the .223...... and hornet, too!!

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22-250 vs 223 vs 204

Ballistics Results
  
Cartridge Information
Index Number Cartridge Type Weight (grs.) Bullet Style Primer No. Ballistic Coefficient
PRA2250RB Premier® AccuTip™ 50 AccuTip™-V Boat Tail 9 1/2 0.242
PRA223RB Premier® AccuTip™ 50 AccuTip™-V Boat Tail  7 1/2 0.242
PRA204B Premier® AccuTip™ 40 AccuTip™-V Boat Tail 7 1/2 0.275

 
Velocity (ft/sec)
Cartridge Type Bullet Muzzle 100 200 300 400 500
Premier® AccuTip™ 50 ATV BT 3725 3272 2864 2491 2147 1832
Premier® AccuTip™ 50 ATV BT 3300 2889 2514 2168 1851 1568
Premier® AccuTip™ 40 ATV BT 3900 3451 3046 2677 2336 2021

 
Energy (ft-lbs)
Cartridge Type Bullet Muzzle 100 200 300 400 500
Premier® AccuTip™ 50 ATV BT 1540 1188 910 689 512 372
Premier® AccuTip™ 50 ATV BT 1209 927 701 522 380 273
Premier® AccuTip™ 40 ATV BT 1351 1058 824 636 485 363

 
Short-Range Trajectory
Cartridge Type Bullet 50 100 150 200 250 300
Premier® AccuTip™ 50 ATV BT 0.0 0.3 zero -1.2 -3.5 -7.0
Premier® AccuTip™ 50 ATV BT 0.0 0.5 zero -1.7 -4.8 -9.4
Premier® AccuTip™ 40 ATV BT -0.3 0.2 zero -1.0 -2.9 -5.8

 
Long-Range Trajectory
Cartridge Type Bullet 100 150 200 250 300 400 500
Premier® AccuTip™ 50 ATV BT 1.7 2.1 1.6 zero -2.8 -12.8 -30.4
Premier® AccuTip™ 50 ATV BT -0.1 1.3 zero -2.6 -6.9 -21.2 -45.8
Premier® AccuTip™ 40 ATV BT 0.7 0.7 zero -1.6 -4.3 -13.2 -28.1

 
Note:  These ballistics reflected a test barrel length of 24" except those for 30 Carbine and 44 Remington Magnum which are 20" barrels.
  Specifications are nominal. Ballistics figures established in test barrels. Individual rifles may vary from test barrel results.
  “zero” indicates yardage at which rifle was sighted in.
* Inches above or below line of sight. Hold low for positive numbers, high for negative numbers.
1 Bullet does not rise more than 1" above line of sight from muzzle to sighting-in range.
2 Bullet does not rise more than 3" above line of sight from muzzle to sighting-in range.

 

 
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Re: Newbie question about barrels
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2006, 01:43:14 PM »
Be sure to see CW's post on the shotgun barrels!! Thanks for the clarification CW!! ;)

Tim
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Re: Newbie question about barrels
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2006, 03:44:33 PM »
It can get pretty expensive just depends how involved you get. First you should get a reloading manuel and read it over if you have never reloaded. Then read it again. If it is something you want and have the time to do there are many online sources to get supplies and equipment. Gun stores that sell RL stuff can help you also.