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22-458: Wildcat cartridge
« on: October 12, 2006, 06:55:00 AM »

Anyone heard of a 458 Winchester Magnum necked down to .22 caliber??
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Re: 22-458: Wildcat cartridge
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2006, 03:08:10 PM »
It's been done. Lasted about 50 shots. Not a good idea.
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"short magnum"...
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2006, 06:35:24 AM »
Many years ago, Winchester came out with the short magnums to fit into .30/'06 length actions. .264 .338, .458. Remington competed with 7 Rem Mag.  :)  So the .458 is just the .338 necked up. Or the .264 is the .338 necked down. Well before WW I, H&H made a .244 on the H&H case. Mr. Ackley said barrel life with those steels, about -0-... Before WCF, much experimenting had gone on. Reported in Mr. Ackley's books available from eabco.com, sinclair, ebay, amazon, and others. Yes, the .22/.458 has been done. As said, no barrel life to speak of. .220 Swift is about the limit for any barrel life/ efficiency. .22/243 (.308 parent case) HOT, HOT HOT. Mr. Newton of WW I fame had a .228 on the 7x57 Mauser case... With STURDY bullets, interesting. Otherwise, no barrel life and explosive bullets... Your callllllll... happy trails.

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Re: 22-458: Wildcat cartridge
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2006, 04:27:22 AM »
Several years ago I ran into a young guy at a gun show that had a barrel for sale. It was a 6mm or .243, on the 50 BMG case. He said it was the biggest diapointment he ever had. With that much powder he could not get 5,000 fps with it. The more over bore you go the less efficent the round gets, and once you go over 4,000 fps the extra velostiy get very expencive in term of more powder to get more velosity. I was going to get a .22-284 barrel put on a Savage action, but the guy I took it to talked me into a .22 on the 6mm case. He has built more wildcat and compition gun than anyone else I know and has done alot of field testing. He says that I should get 3,500 fps with and 80 gn. bullet with no problem and use less powder and have a longer barrel life. This round should still be moveing at abt. 1,900 fps at 1,000 yrds. so there is no way I`ll ever have to worry abt. the instablity of the bullet as it drops below the sound barrier.

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Re: 22-458: Wildcat cartridge
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2006, 04:24:47 PM »
oh a  lighter note, i was in to my gunsmiths the other day and he showed me a 50 bmg necked down to .12. looked like a needle in a bunghole. he said, shoot 3 times and change the barrel.then he busted out laughing. i think he has toooo much free time.

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Re: 22-458: Wildcat cartridge
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2006, 04:09:52 AM »
Never seen one neck to 12, seen a bunch necked to 17 though,
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