Author Topic: New Omega...tool question....  (Read 5253 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Flatlander.54

  • Classified -- Banned
  • Trade Count: (3)
  • Avid Poster
  • *
  • Posts: 224
New Omega...tool question....
« on: October 13, 2006, 01:01:21 PM »
 Just got a new Omega yesterday, this is the second one I have owned. The first was the plain Jane model...blue barrel/black composite. The new one is full camo with thumbhole stock, sighted in today and it's dead accurate.

 My question is about the small allen wrench (1/16") that came with the other tools. My first Omega did not have this allen wrench and I cant figure out for the life of me what its used to adjust on this new Omega. Its not for the sights cause the rear sight has slot-head screws for adjustment., and I see no allen screw, nor have ever heard of one that adjusts trigger pull like on my Contender pistol. So, what the heck is it for? Anyone know?

 
"Beware the man who owns but one gun...he likely knows how to use it."

Offline Keith Lewis

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • A Real Regular
  • ****
  • Posts: 804
Re: New Omega...tool question....
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2006, 02:05:45 PM »
I believe it is for the locking screws that hold the pins in the trigger assembly. You have to loosen them first before knocking the pins out. My stainless camo Omega did not come with the wrench and there was no notification that there was a locking screw. I almost destroyed the rifle trying to knock the pins out without backing off the locking screws. I should have looked closer but I did not see any reason for the locking screws in the first place. Hopefully you didn't try to disassemble the first Omega without backing off the screws.

Offline Flatlander.54

  • Classified -- Banned
  • Trade Count: (3)
  • Avid Poster
  • *
  • Posts: 224
Re: New Omega...tool question....
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2006, 03:22:01 PM »
Thanks for the info Keith. I will definately keep that in mind. And no I never tried to take the trigger assembly apart on the first one I had, nor on this new one either. The owners manual says nothing about a dissasembly procedure for the trigger assembly, you would think they would at least throw the info in there. Anyway, thanks again for the info.
"Beware the man who owns but one gun...he likely knows how to use it."

Offline Busta

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (5)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2586
  • Gender: Male
Re: New Omega...tool question....
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2006, 05:04:10 PM »
Flatlander.54,

I don't own an Omega, but in addition to what Keith said if I remember correctly I read that the Firing pin housing in the drop block has a screw to remove the so you can disassemble it to clean the pin and cone shaped spring inside. Check that out also. I could be wrong but I'm sure I read that somewhere. :)
U.S.A.F. Veteran
NRA Life Member

Offline Keith Lewis

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • A Real Regular
  • ****
  • Posts: 804
Re: New Omega...tool question....
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2006, 06:15:44 AM »
I have not read that either but I am going to check mine to see if that is true. I have not had any problem with the firing pin as there is almost no blowback in my Omega with the 209 primers. I switched to the .25ACP conversion which also almost eliminates any blowback.

Offline Wolfhound

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 418
Re: New Omega...tool question....
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2006, 07:12:33 AM »
Flatlander.54,

I don't own an Omega, but in addition to what Keith said if I remember correctly I read that the Firing pin housing in the drop block has a screw to remove the so you can disassemble it to clean the pin and cone shaped spring inside. Check that out also. I could be wrong but I'm sure I read that somewhere. :)

They do, but unless they've changed it yet again it's a slotted screw on the Omega.


Here's a pic I took of my Omega.


This is the back of one of the new Encores. The screw is above the firing pin instead of below like the Omega. Also note the different screw.


Omega action/pin dissasembled.


A diagram I drew of this.


EZ reasembly method.




The new style. The firing pin depresses when you use a screwdriver to turn the screw/retainer.


Those parts.


The diagram for the new style.

If there's another type I'd sure appreciate the pics so I can add them to the guide. Thompson/Center unfortunately has neglected to inform end users of this. They need cleaning at least once a year (after hunting season is over) and more often if you shoot it year round.
http://www.modernmuzzleloader.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=4049

Offline Flatlander.54

  • Classified -- Banned
  • Trade Count: (3)
  • Avid Poster
  • *
  • Posts: 224
Re: New Omega...tool question....
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2006, 07:19:54 AM »
Hey thanks for the help guys, I appreciate it. Im gonna get my Omega out and familiarize myself with take-down of theses assemblys. I only have 9 shots through this new Omega so far and have been reading up on the blowback/gas cuting problems with the breech so Im planning to eventually go with the .25 ACP conversion to eliminate that. Everyone that has them seems to be really satisfied with them. Thanks again for the help.
"Beware the man who owns but one gun...he likely knows how to use it."

Offline Wolfhound

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 418
Re: New Omega...tool question....
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2006, 11:35:41 AM »
Go ahead. I've complained to T/C but they don't seem to have listened. Maybe it'll help someone out.

Offline rks1949

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 311
Re: New Omega...tool question....
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2007, 08:09:19 AM »
Yeah,great details! Makes it simple to understand,it should be a Sticky (and in the manual too). Ron
UNCOMPENSATED ENDORSER

Offline torasperry

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Posts: 2
  • Gender: Male
  • Illigitimi non Carborundum
Re: New Omega...tool question....
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2008, 05:43:14 AM »
Thanks everyone,
Just got a new Omega, Stainless, Thumbhole stock, Nikon BDC also, And I questioned what the little wrench was for?
Now I have the ANSWER, THANKS.
 ;D
BRING ENOUGH GUN, ANY MISSION, ANY CONDITION, ANY FOE, AT ANY RANGE

Offline scott johnson

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 28
Re: New Omega...tool question....
« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2008, 12:58:05 PM »
Iwas just wandering idont think  your barrel is stainless on your new omega with  the thumbhole stock , The only way  you can get  that is  if you buy a encore or the other more expensive , I wanted  to buy a omega  with  a stainless barrel  with the thumb hole  stock and they dont make them  you must have bought  the one with the camo barrel with  that special coating on it to prevent rust Iwas going  to buy a triumph then  with a stainless barrell but Iread  the weight  differnce between the omega  stainless and the triumph and  the omega weighs  a pound more I was  surprised called somebody at thompson center  and  they said  the barrel lon the omega has more to  it  he said they shaved a pound off the triumph barrell so it weighs 6and 1/2 pounds the omega costs  the same as the triumph and the triumph has the new breech system  with finger capability to take out  the breech plug but Ithink the omega is still a better built rifle just my opinion , What  do  you guys   think. ???

Offline Swampman

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (44)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 16518
  • Gender: Male
Re: New Omega...tool question....
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2009, 01:25:02 AM »
They make a stainless thumbhole Omega.

http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showpage?saleitemid=441410&utm_source=froogle&utm_medium=free&utm_campaign=10635

They don't make a stainless Triumph.

I just bought a new Omega at Walmart for $225.00.  IMO it's just as good as if not better than the Triumph.
"Brother, you say there is but one way to worship and serve the Great Spirit. If there is but one religion, why do you white people differ so much about it? Why not all agreed, as you can all read the Book?" Sogoyewapha, "Red Jacket" - Senaca

1st Special Operations Wing 1975-1983
919th Special Operations Wing  1983-1985 1993-1994

"Manus haec inimica tyrannis / Ense petit placidam sub libertate quietem" ~Algernon Sidney~

Offline scott johnson

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 28
Re: New Omega...tool question....
« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2009, 02:15:18 PM »
Swamp man , your  right  they make omega with the laminated stock with the thumb hole , in stainless just not sythetic Ihave never heard of a omega selling brand new for 225.00 at walmart  you got a great deal, Iwould have gotten back alot sooner but my computer went on the fritz.

Offline John Ceglarek

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 15
Re: New Omega...tool question....
« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2009, 02:46:31 PM »
Well I feel like a total idiot...but I can't find the two set screws for the pivot pins that everyone is talking about.  Where exactly are they?  And did we decide that those set screws are what the allen wrench is for, or is it to disassemble the firing pin assembly?

Thanks,

John