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BC rifle
« on: October 19, 2006, 09:58:39 AM »
Does anybody know where i can find a authinic looking scope for the buffalo rifle.thats preety reasonable . thanks for your help
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Re: BC rifle
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2006, 10:10:23 AM »
The least expensive option that I've seen is from Dixie, a much nicer one is the Malcolm, but it's over $500 with mounts. There's another option, but I can't remember the name of it, but it's not cheap, either.

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http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_info.php?products_id=4040&osCsid=4de81237fc9df3791410a5d6ca8e0d65

http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_info.php?products_id=4041
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Re: BC rifle
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2006, 10:15:07 AM »
Tim thanks for your help. how hard is it to mount the scope . is it gun smith material?
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Re: BC rifle
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2006, 10:18:33 AM »
Mounting info is on the Dixie page, a gunsmith would be required for most that aren't home DIY types.

Tim
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Re: BC rifle
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2006, 10:22:46 AM »
ok thanks .the reason im asking is i heard the sights on the rifle is hard to get past 100 yards for elavation . is that true?
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Re: BC rifle
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2006, 10:24:05 AM »
Montana Vintage arms makes some nice scopes....  But, they are NOT cheap....
When it comes to optics, you usually get what you pay for though....

http://www.montanavintagearms.com/mva_scope.html
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Re: BC rifle
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2006, 10:26:47 AM »
This one has 200 minutes of elevation, offered by Buffalo Arms...

http://www.buffaloarms.com/browse.cfm/4,5407.htm
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Re: BC rifle
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2006, 10:47:47 AM »
If you want a long range sight, the Smith Ladder sight is probably the nicest that is a direct fit. It comes with a notch slider, but you can get a peep slider for it from TOTW or direct from Smith Ent. Pics are Bernie's rifle (dodd3). He shoots out to 800yds with it accurately.

http://www.buffaloarms.com/browse.cfm/4,4191.htm

http://trackofthewolf.com/(S(35mj2e45f0x0jh55nu02cjzs))/categories/PARTDETAIL.ASPX?CATID=14&SUBID=167&STYLEID=765&PARTNUM=RS-SE-WIN-PS-B





Another option is the Williams FP-Target sight direct from H&R for $60, it's good for 500gr bullets to about 500yds, see the peep and firesight link in the FAQ.

Another option is to mount a vernier type sight to the wrist as in the pic of Bernie's. Or as Handirifle did.

http://handirifle.com/articles/mybuffalo.htm

Tim


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Re: BC rifle
« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2006, 11:08:16 AM »
thanks guys now i got many options.
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Re: BC rifle
« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2006, 11:16:09 AM »
is wally world the best price for the buffalo rifle its 315.00 plus tax?
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Re: BC rifle
« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2006, 11:42:25 AM »
That's about as good as it gets except for Sportsman's Warehouse sells em for $299 if you have one near ya, Gander sells em for the same or better than WM. If you order one from WM, be prepared for a wait.

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Re: BC rifle
« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2006, 12:08:51 PM »
I live in central Texas. dont think there is a sportsman wharehouse here. we have cabelas and bass pro preety close
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Re: BC rifle
« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2006, 12:35:04 PM »
There are 4 stores in Texas, but they could still be a long ways from ya!!

Tim

http://sportsmanswarehouse.com/stores_all.htm#tx
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Re: BC rifle
« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2006, 12:40:01 PM »
Round rock is about 45 miles. close enough to go see what they have. thanks tim.
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Re: BC rifle
« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2006, 12:43:22 PM »
the factory sights are good for what ranges on the bc? windage and elavation?
 
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Re: BC rifle
« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2006, 01:06:05 PM »
I'd give Sportsman's a call and see what they have in stock before I spent $2.50 a gallon for gas to check, unless you just want to shop!!

It wasn't even good for 100yds on mine with the rear sight all the way at the top of the ramp, I swapped out the .584" tall factory 17A front sight for a .404" tall 17A sight, several others had the same problem, but for others it worked fine for 100yds+, don't remember specifically how far tho.

Tim
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Re: BC rifle
« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2006, 03:11:37 PM »
every thing tim said,if you are stilllset on getting a trad scope the leatherwood macolm style scope is the way to go $419  from dixii.http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_129_647&products_id=13101
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Re: BC rifle
« Reply #17 on: October 19, 2006, 04:08:00 PM »
thanks guys .Your right Tim,2.50 a gallon alot of dough. I will call first thanks.
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Re: BC rifle
« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2006, 02:04:03 AM »
Quote from: 1000 yard stare on October 19, 2006, 10:22:46 AM
ok thanks .the reason im asking is i heard the sights on the rifle is hard to get past 100 yards for elavation . is that true?




I never had any trouble with elevation adjustments at(past)100 yards.  I actually had a lot of elevation left on my BC.  This was shooting handloads and 300 gr. and 405 gr. bullets at 100 yards.  Don't know about the heavier stuff.
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Re: BC rifle
« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2006, 02:11:55 AM »
Quote from: 1000 yard stare on October 19, 2006, 10:15:07 AM
Tim thanks for your help. how hard is it to mount the scope . is it gun smith material?




I just recently installed a scope on my BC.  It turned out real good and wasn't hard at all.  I didn't even use a mount that was designed for the BC.  I am a sometimes  home DIY type.  Sometimes it turns out good and sometimes it doesn't.   :)






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Re: BC rifle
« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2006, 04:50:09 AM »
Quote from: jack19512 on October 20, 2006, 02:11:55 AM
Quote from: 1000 yard stare on October 19, 2006, 10:15:07 AM
Tim thanks for your help. how hard is it to mount the scope . is it gun smith material?

I just recently installed a scope on my BC. It turned out real good and wasn't hard at all. I didn't even use a mount that was designed for the BC. I am a sometimes home DIY type. Sometimes it turns out good and sometimes it doesn't. :)


Jack, that question pertained to the mounting of the traditional scope which was the topic of this thread, they use external adjustments which would require extensive machining on a BC.

1000 yard stare,

Nothing special is needed to mount a modern scope on a BC, they're just like a Handi, in fact with good rings and the right scope, they look and shoot great, a good alternative for old eyes if long range shooting is your goal. I have a Bushnell Elite 3200 10x40 Mildot on one of mine. Stuffit has a real nice scoped BC, bottom pic.

Tim

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Round barrels require the bottoms of the mounts to be made concave, or flat spots made on the barrel. Each mount requires (2) blind 6X48 standard American holes to be drilled and tapped into the barrel. Screws included.





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Re: BC rifle
« Reply #21 on: October 20, 2006, 07:02:16 AM »
My BC with standard sights is zeroed in at 200 yards.  Shooting remington 300hps at 2000fps

And, I have more room to lift the rear peep sight a little more.  Maybe I could get 250 out of it. 
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Re: BC rifle
« Reply #22 on: October 20, 2006, 07:29:30 AM »
I'm wondering if H&R put different 17A sights on some BCs since so many work fine with the factory front sight, that seems to be the only answer that makes sense to me, the only other possibility would be a bore that wasn't centered in the barrel, but mine is perfect. Maybe they ran out of the lower .404" or .494" sights and put the .584" sight on some of em? ??? I can't remember for sure, but mine shot 6" or 8" low with the rear sight at the top of the ramp with the 405gr rems at 1500fps or so, with the .404" front and the rear FP-Target in the lowest position, it hits 1½" high at 100yds with the same load.

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« Reply #23 on: October 20, 2006, 11:27:55 AM »
my 357 needed a different front post once I got it from the factory as an add on barrel.  I could not get it on paper at 25 yards.  HR sent me a taller one real fast and without question.
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Re: BC rifle
« Reply #24 on: October 20, 2006, 11:31:10 AM »
now that I think of it, my friends BC needed a different front site.  He bought his from Lyman though, did not try to work with HR.  His problem was that he could not get it any better than 8 inches high at 100 yards..  If he wanted a long range shooter, it would have been fine, but he wanted it zeroed at 100.
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Re: BC rifle
« Reply #25 on: October 21, 2006, 12:13:27 PM »
I calles sportsmans whare house today they did not have it said they could order it the bc rifle.335. plus 15 dollars shipping plus tax .I think ill go with wm for 315.00
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Re: BC rifle
« Reply #26 on: October 22, 2006, 01:25:07 AM »
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Jack, that question pertained to the mounting of the traditional scope which was the topic of this thread, they use external adjustments which would require extensive machining on a BC.


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Sorry, shows how much I don't know about the BC. :)
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