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Offline carpediem

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Shrinking Agent in Bullet Lube?
« on: April 16, 2003, 08:54:01 PM »
:-D Greetings from the Great White North:

Has anyone heard of a shrinking agent being added to bullet lube so that it adhears more tightly to the lube groove and doesn't fall off the bullet?

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« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2003, 11:06:12 PM »
I know that when I make felix lube the Lanolin is what is suppose to make it stay in the grove. You can buy it in any drug store. I belive its called hydrous lanolin or some such thing. Try adding a tablespoon to about 4 sticks of what you are making.
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« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2003, 06:38:24 PM »
:-D Thanks Sixgun, I'll give it a try and let you know how it works out.

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« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2003, 01:47:27 AM »
That needs to be ANHYDROUS lanolin. Anhydrous means without water. Don't let some saleslady sell you the hydrous stuff they priobably have in stock and is much more common. I recently bought some from a local drug store. They had to order it and came in the next day. It cost about $18/lb. I would check with a compunding pharmacist before I checked Wal Mart, Walgreen's, etc. They are usually the smaller one owner drug stores and you stand a higher chance of them having it in stock.

I recently made some of the Felix lube for the first time. It came out softer than I wanted but was pretty slick. I am going to go back and add more beeswax and parrafin. Anybody ever try adding some of the alox stick lube to the felix formula?

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« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2003, 08:22:36 AM »
:-D Greetings from the Great White North:

Is felix lube the stuff that uses soap flakes that have to be shaved into a pot and melted, then mixed with a whole lot of other stuff?  

Has anyone tried using liquid soap in place of the bar soap?

How good is this felix lube?  How fast can you shoot non-gas check bullets before the lube starts to fail?

How does felix lube compare to a mixture of bees wax, parifin wax, and moly?

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« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2003, 05:24:05 PM »
Felix lube is the one you put Ivory soap shavings in. You use it as a substitute for sodium stearate. I would be real skittish about using liquid soap as you don't won't anything with water and my guess is it doesn't have a very high concentration of sodium stearate if any at all. I haven't used any yet but have mixed up a large batch. I am waiting to finish up the stick of hard lube in my sizer now. Also, I have no experience with other blends that contain grease, moly, etc. Sounds like they would be rather messy. I like what I have seen so far with the Felix lube. It is very, very slick to the touch.

Beau
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« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2003, 07:24:48 PM »
:-D Hello Beau:

Thanks for the info on felix lube.  

Using a plain base bullet, how fast can you drive the bullet before the lube fails?  Do you need a heater to warm up the felix lube to get it to flow through a lube sizer?

The bees wax, parafin wax and moly combination creates quite a hard stick of lube.  I need to put heat to my lube sizer to get the lube to flow properly.  

With my lube, I am driving a 405 grain, 45-70 wheel weight cast bullet at 1700 feet per second.  Anything faster and my barrel starts to lead.

I would like to hear how well felix lube works.

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« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2003, 10:00:41 PM »
That additive MUST be Preparation H  :)  Sorry, I been'a gritten ma teeth but with a lead in like that I couldn't resist.
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« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2003, 04:58:19 PM »
So far all I have loaded is pistol rounds with the fastest being about 1300  FPS or so in my SRH .44. Hard lube has done fine so far but I wan't something that doesn't require a heater. I just cast up a bunch of .30 cal RCBS silhouette bullets and just got in a Seaco #17 .45 300 gr mold for the .45/70 Ruger No. 3 and .450 Marlin. I am planning on using the Felix lube on these. Might get a chance to do it this weekend. I have seen people post that they have gotten 2000 FPS out of rifles with no problem using the Felix lube. Guess I just got to try it to believe it. Anybody else got something to add?

Beau
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« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2003, 06:39:39 PM »
2500 fps in a 308 Win. with FWFL. Accurate with low speed wadcutters also. I used Ly Super Moly before this and NRA Alox formula before that. I find Felix Lube superior to both, cheaper and easier to clean up not to mention no unpleasant odor. Gianni.
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« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2003, 07:28:58 PM »
:-D Anybody got a recipie for Felix Lube?

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« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2003, 02:11:47 AM »
Carpedium,
Go to www.castpics.net. It is there. There is also a lot of neat info from the guys at the shooters cast bullets forum.

Beau
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« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2003, 10:16:58 PM »
:-D Greetings from the Great White North:

OK dozer, after all these months, I JUST got the preperation H joke :) .

I melted up my first batch of felix lube tonight and am real keen on trying it out.  I think I will test it using my 8mm mauser.  I would love to be able to get 2500 ft/sec. out of it.  

Are people using gas checks and felix lube for these great velocities or are they plain base bullets?

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