I got a nice 8 pt Saturday morning with the new 45-70 barrel I got the week before. The 300 grain HP
hit the deer quartering away at about 70 yards, broke the last 3 ribs on the left side entering, played pinball inside (turned everything inside to soup) and broke 2 ribs on the right and lodged under the skin just behind the shoulder. Recovered bullit weight 260 grains. Upon mpact the deer dropped to his front knees and then got up walked 20 paces and fell over. Got to love those TC big bores. I've got to add that I probably would not have raised the rifle had I not seen the deer in my binnoculars, I thought I saw movement and looked close but could see nothing, put the glasses up and it looked like the cover of a hunting magazine, Lots of leaves still on the trees, wonder how many I could have gotten if I had good glass to check out movement. Don't like using the scope until I'm sure of my target.