H&R in 257 roberts

[chevyguy76]

Hey all,

new guy here again, this is a great site and have learned alot already.

I was just wondering if anyone had one of their rifles rechambered in 257 roberts?  I would think this would be a handloaders dream



Chevyguy

[quickdtoo]

There's no suitable existing barrel for just a rechamber, the only .257" bore H&R is the .25-06 which is bigger than the .257R. Fred M rechambered and rebored a 24" .223 Ultra Varmint barrel to .257R, you can read about it on his web site by clicking his WWW icon. I'm sure he'll post a reply for ya too!

Tim

[joshco84]

is a 257 roberts really that much better than a 25 06?? i hear them talked about a lot and personally have never shot or even seen a bob and am curious about them.

[quickdtoo]

Just looking at Hornady's data, the .257R will push a 100gr bullet to 3100fps, the .25-06 pushes the same bullet to 3300fps, although their .257R data is from a 22" barrel and the .25-06 is a 24"er. Hopefully someone with more knowledge of them will offer more insight to the individual characteristics of both.

Tim

[chevyguy76]

HI,

Not sure if it is any better then a 2506, Just not eveyone has one  I like  oddball stuff lol. I have one in a model 70 winchester but have not had much of a chance to shoot it yet.  I just know alot of people love them and  are good ones to reload for can make some pretty hot loads.  Supposed to be very flat shooting and acurate.  Just figured maybe someone had played around with them on here


Thanks

Chevyguy

[quickdtoo]

Since Fred didn't reply yet, here's his .257Bob Ultra page...

http://www.angelfire.com/ma/ZERMEL/257wp3.html

[joshco84]

well from the drawings i deduct a few things, a little more case capacity is the first.  the second i see is the angle on the neck is a little more gradual on the 06 and maybe that would conduce a little better release of pressure in a forward motion??? is anyone else catching the same drift i am, or have a hit a side current. does the angle make a difference??

[Fred M]

There is not much to be said about the 257 Roberts. No it is not better than a 25-06. But it will do most anything that a 25-06 will do with less powder, less recoil, less noise. Hence a very light rifle like my conversion can be had in a 257R. In a converted Handi it is a danty.

It is about as good a deer rifle you can get using bullets up to 120gr. It kills moose too. Yes I agree a 257 Roberts by the factory would be a real welcome by a lot of Handi users, specially the young and tender folks.

My 257R has been plaqued by latch trouble again and I need to do a permanent welding job on the hinge seat. This loosening is driving me nuts. But then I been only working on it for two years. The troube is I shoot it too much with the 75gr V-max. The 6x47 and the 17HMR is better suited for varmints.

The 257R is easy to hand load and cases are easy to get. Besides you can make cases from 6mm Rem, 7x57, 270 win, 30-06, and 25-06. I had both 25-06 and 257Roberts in a Handi  and I think the 257R is better suited to  the Handi than the 25-06.

Though I really like a 25-06 , one of my most accurate hunting rifle is a Ruger#1 in 25-06. Its not getting much use with the 257 Roberts around.

[RemingtonMagnum]

Just looking at Hornady's data, the .257R will push a 100gr bullet to 3100fps, the .25-06 pushes the same bullet to 3300fps, although their .257R data is from a 22" barrel and the .25-06 is a 24"er. Hopefully someone with more knowledge of them will offer more insight to the individual characteristics of both.

Tim

Tim do you have a web site to find these diagrams? Both the sites I used don't work are don't have any info same thing.

Don

[quickdtoo]

It's from Steve Ricciardelli's web site.

Tim

http://www.stevespages.com/page8.htm

[Mac11700]

There is not much to be said about the 257 Roberts.But it will do most anything that a 25-06 will do with less powder, less recoil, less noise.

Fred...To some I think what you said about the cartridge is enough to make a person want one...And that's saying a-lot...but without many words...

Mac

[chevyguy76]

great info and input guys


Chevyguy

[cgturner7]

I've been wanting a 257 Roberts since I bought my first H&R.  I shot my first TX whitetail with a Roberts and it's just about perfect for down here.  If NEF is going to build an unusual caliber like a .444 why not a .257 Roberts?  It could be sold as a youth sized rifle and loaded as such.  Or it can be loaded up.  What could be better?

[MSP Ret]

I would also like to have a .257 Roberts in a Handi but since you will have to have the .257 Roberts made up for you at some expense you might consider one of my favorite Handi's that you can still find used, a 7x57 Mauser. It is easy to shoot with little objectionable recoil and it is a very efficient and effective cartridge that has taken just about every species of animal on this planet. If you reload for it, as you should, there is probably one of the largest selections of bullets available in the .284 diameter.
If you are looking for a more easily available chambering the .280 Remington is another great choice as well as the 7MM-08 if you are looking for less recoil in factory ammo. The 7mm/.284 is a wonderful caliber for many things with the wide selection of easily available bullets....<><....