Author Topic: 2006 election results... (Read 1811 times)

Matt · « **on:** November 05, 2006, 11:23:06 PM »

Ok I will put in my prediction on the election results:
Republicans hold the majority by one seat in the house
Democrats will blame not having its campaign funding consolidated like the republicans for the loss.
Bush will get to finish his part of the plan... maybe…

Matt

victorcharlie · « **Reply #1 on:** November 06, 2006, 01:14:50 AM »

Without a clear 2/3's majority held by either party it's not really that much of an advantage. I think your prediction is probably pretty close to what will happen.

Mikey · « **Reply #2 on:** November 06, 2006, 01:57:02 AM »

I'm hoping you are right. I don't like the idea of a civil insurgency if those slavering liberals take both houses as well as the white house but, it may be necessary. JMHO. Mikey.

ironglow · « **Reply #3 on:** November 06, 2006, 12:13:57 PM »

Matt;
One correction;
When the Dems find they have not won fairly , all the seats they wanted then the cries of voter fraud, voter intimidation etc start.

Then of course, they will have to take some of the races to the courts. Like all liberals..what they can't win at the ballot box they try to force through the courts, regardless what most voters want.

Shucks, they are starting to whine already, even before election day...I guess that is a "pre-emptive strike"...LOL

nabob · « **Reply #4 on:** November 06, 2006, 12:23:10 PM »

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what they can't win at the ballot box they try to force through the courts, regardless what most voters want.

Sour grapes, my man. Sour grapes. Whoever wins in court depends on who makes the best argument.

ironglow · « **Reply #5 on:** November 06, 2006, 12:29:37 PM »

Right Nabob...and the voters should not be saddled with someone that the majority didn't want..just because some slick lawyer out-argued another lawyer..

nabob · « **Reply #6 on:** November 06, 2006, 12:39:25 PM »

More sour grapes. If the guy who won did so by doing something illegal, I don't think he should be allowed into office. Most politicians wait until they are actually in office before breaking the law.

I can understand the frustration, though. When someone pays good money to buy an election, losing it to a legal challenge is hard to bear.

fe352v8 · « **Reply #7 on:** November 06, 2006, 04:41:08 PM »

The majority did not want Bush in 2000, this is not the first time the Electoral College did not reflect the popular vote, nor will it be the last. Luckily the popular majority in that election were “liberal democrats”, without guns, so we had no insurrection.

After 12 years of controlling both houses and 6 years of controlling the Presidency, blaming someone else seems rather pathetic.

Personally I hope the balance of power doesn’t change, I have so far been merely amused at the rationalizations blaming the party out of power for any problems. If the incumbent party maintains control I expect my mere amusement will be replaced by uncontrollable laughter as they try to blame someone else.

Predictions, republicans lose control of House by a seat or two, and barely maintain Senate. At least their excuse, it’s the democrats fault, won’t sound so silly anymore.

Life is no joke but funny things happen

jon

Heavy C · « **Reply #8 on:** November 07, 2006, 06:12:17 PM »

Well it looks like a split down the middle. What truly worries me is the thought of Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House.

Brett · « **Reply #9 on:** November 08, 2006, 01:57:34 AM »

Well folks get ready to dig a little deeper into your pockets - taxes will be going up soon. Oh, and hide those semi-automatics and pumps because you know that the Dems will be pushing to ad them to the banned list. Stock up on ammo now too before the Dems 200% sin tax on ammo goes into effect. Our already shaky military status as a world super power will take another hit as we tuck tail and run away from Iraq. Better get an English to Spanish dictionary while you're at Wally-World stocking up on ammo and start practicing so that you will be able to communicate with the new majority when the Dems roll out the red carpet to the 20 million illegals in this country and make them legal. At least your girls won't have to travel far for an abortion when they open up the abortion clinic next door to the high school. And say hi to the new couple next door, Garry and Bruce - they make such a cute couple in their matching pink polo shirts don't you think.

And please remember, if you were too lazy or couldn't be bothered going out to vote or if you actually voted for the Dems you have no right to gripe when all this comes to fruition.

victorcharlie · « **Reply #10 on:** November 08, 2006, 02:24:16 AM »

Brett, legislation still has to make it through a republican controlled Senate, and King George II still has veto power. However, with the democrats holding the power in the house, they set the agenda. Get ready for some explaining by the Republicans.

This might not be a bad thing as the executive and judicial branches have taken power not given in the constitution, and maybe, the legislative branch, or at least the house might take a little of there power back.

The one good thing that might occur is the Republicans will have to figurer out how to get back in touch with their base. I've voted republican all my life, and quite honestly they got what they deserve.

The republicans have to realize they "can't go ugly early".............as most of the base feels like the ugly girl a fellow lines up early in the evening and then works to improve his chances as the night goes on. You've got to dance with the one that brought you. This is what happens when you don't.

The scale just tipped the balance of power back toward the center. Not necessarily a bad thing.....nor a good thing......

Mikey · « **Reply #11 on:** November 08, 2006, 02:53:14 AM »

Brett: you are absolutely correct on all counts. Victorcharlie - I agree with some of your points and although the President will retain his veto power for another two years I believe the demigods to be have control of the house of shame and the congress of cowards. I would look to hide things away and stockpile ammo and parts. Get a new identity or another one and find places to hide things.

Neu Yawk took a terrible hit. A thief was re-elected as state comptroller; a communist was elected attorney general and a liberal coward was elected governor. The rest of the nation had better watch the gun control antics in ny because these recently elected will make every effort they can to export their gun control fervor across state lines.

I predict that with such liberal leanings now in the house and senate that foreign terrorists will launch more attacks on American soil and there will be blood in the streets. I predict that leftist goveronrs will use the state's National Guard to put down citizen unrest as they will be powerless to halt any form of terrorism.

But let's just remember how many of us (80 million) own firearms and believe in the 2nd Amendment the way it was written and most recently (Bush Administration) interpreted as an individual right and we can use that strength to keep our rights if the need arises. Cowards and communists want soooo badly to disarm Americans that it is first on their agenda and the most palatable taste in their mouths.

They want so badly to control all of us and the power of our earning capability they will go to extremes. I am grateful that I have had the chance to put away for the future before the flotsom rose to the top. Mikey.

powderman · « **Reply #12 on:** November 08, 2006, 03:16:04 AM »

I'm sre the Godless ones are dancing in the streets now. A sad day for America. POWDERMAN.

Savage .250 · « **Reply #13 on:** November 08, 2006, 03:41:10 AM »

The GOP came into these elections in a very leaky ship and "stay the course" sank it!
Poll after poll indicated a change was needed but they cruised on telling all that would listen what a good job they were doing. Wrong!
All they (GOP) had to do was make some changes, which IMO, would have
brought this ship back to port.
Face it, The GOP shot themselves foot and you and you can bet changes are a-
coming
As soon as the Dems get their act together you can bet the 2nd amendment
will be under siege.
N. Pelosi, will lead the charge on guns and gun owners. No doubt in my mind.
Make sure your NRA membership is paid up as they are the strongest voice we
have( beside us of course).
Dam(n), all they had to do is make some changes! "Stay the course", took them
right out the door.

victorcharlie · « **Reply #14 on:** November 08, 2006, 03:46:31 AM »

Quote from: Mikey on November 08, 2006, 02:53:14 AM

Brett: you are absolutely correct on all counts. Victorcharlie - I agree with some of your points and although the President will retain his veto power for another two years I believe the demigods to be have control of the house of shame and the congress of cowards. I would look to hide things away and stockpile ammo and parts. Get a new identity or another one and find places to hide things.

Mikey, it really won't matter in the end.....both parties are headed to the same place. No doubt what you say could happen, but it doesn't have to. I believe the country as a whole is still right of center. The republicans have had control for 12 years and have done many things to alienate the base. If there smart they'll start working for the people who sent them. If they do, no problem. If they don't then expect more of the same.

The republican party, by it's action, has placed it's self in a position that a lot of the loyal base just can't tolerate. They are still missing the boat in that it isn't the war in Iraq.....it's the loss of liberty while allowing the borders to be infiltrated, it's the growth in the size of government and the resulting debt, it's the globalization and new world order rather than the preservation of a sovereign nation. It's the pandering to the UN. The base has watched good jobs flow out of the country while at the same time illegal aliens take a portion of jobs that are left.

If the republicans want to stay in power they better start thinking about the base, not the corporate money.

The dems didn't make gains because they have a better plan, they made gains because the republicans didn't do what the base wanted them to do.

nomosendero · « **Reply #15 on:** November 08, 2006, 04:16:33 AM »

That much is true, the Dems have NO plan, nor do those who voted for them.

I very mich agree about the border & the dept, but I hope no one believes the Socialist Democraps
will do anything about that but make it worst.

Ah well, the fewer taxes that I and other Americans who actually work have been paying & the break from gun control has been nice, but I guess folks are tired of that.

Heavy C · « **Reply #16 on:** November 08, 2006, 07:07:41 AM »

Hopefully the beuracracy that is Washington will get bogged down with the first couple of initiatives that the Dems are throwing out there that it will give us time to acquire some of our dream toys. In the end though it will only be a matter of time. Lets hope the GOP learned it's lesson - doubtful, but we can still hope. It makes me sick to think about it.

NYH1 · « **Reply #17 on:** November 08, 2006, 07:22:49 AM »

Quote from: Mikey on November 08, 2006, 02:53:14 AM

Neu Yawk took a terrible hit. A thief was re-elected as state comptroller; a communist was elected attorney general and a liberal coward was elected governor. The rest of the nation had better watch the gun control antics in ny because these recently elected will make every effort they can to export their gun control fervor across state lines.

I don't know how much worse it could get. Our current Governor is/was the worst Governor we've ever had as far as gun control go's. He came up with "ballistic finger printing" and a law that mirrors the "federal assault weapons ban of 1994". He also wanted to have pistol permit holders renew their pistol permits yearly at the tune of $100 if I remember correctly. Two reasons for this. 1- so he could fill budget gaps and 2- so judges would have to approve your permit all over again or not approve them! Oh yeah he is Republican Governor George E. Pataki. Remember his name. He's talking about running for president in 2008!

Couldn't Arkansas or Illinois have taken Billary back....................not again!

victorcharlie · « **Reply #18 on:** November 08, 2006, 08:20:37 AM »

The handgun permits, by charging $100 per year, only serve to limit access to the poor. The affluent will have no problem paying the fee but the little old lady on a fixed income who lives in a bad neighborhood cannot afford it. The end result is the same and it's really legislating by social-economic conditions. The gun control act of 1968 which banned the importation of small cheap handguns denied handguns to those who need them the most.

The plan here is: Lets make guns so expensive only the affluent can afford them........the trick to driving up cost is to regulate the industry and impose a tax on manufactures, distributers, dealer, and of course, the end user.

You will be allowed all the liberty you can afford and can have all the freedom you can pay for.

Heck, look at camping in a state of federal park......most all areas open to camping are fee areas filled by expensive trailers. The end result is poor people don't camp because they can't afford it. Funny, because camping was one of the things poor people used to do.

Most boat ramps around here have a day use fee attached......come to think of it, poor people don't really own boats anyway right?

hardertr · « **Reply #19 on:** November 08, 2006, 08:26:53 AM »

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I don't know how much worse it could get. Our current Governor is/was the worst Governor we've ever had as far as gun control go's. ............... Oh yeah he is Republican Governor George E. Pataki. Remember his name. He's talking about running for president in 2008!

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Say it ain't so. I guess you owe some thanks to those die-hard-straight-Republican-ticket voters

ironglow · « **Reply #20 on:** November 08, 2006, 12:39:05 PM »

NYhunter;
Yep ! Old Patki is a real bag of junk..but as is always true, even with most counties in the state being red..we cannot get a decent person elected on a statewide basis. The few blue counties that the big cities are located in easily outvote the common sense voters.
Pitaki is of course, a RINO, and if someone weren't already on the Democrat ticket when he first ran, he probably would have jumped on it ! Mayor Bloomberg of NYC is another RINO..

Don't expect any gun owner's relief under Spitzer..he and Chuckie Schumer may as well be considered lovers on gun grabbing.

I am afraid we are in for some 'tough sledding' in the future, statewide and possibly nationally !

Brett · « **Reply #21 on:** November 08, 2006, 04:08:03 PM »

And so it begins.

McClatchy Newspapers

(MCT)

WASHINGTON - In two hours of arguments immersed in exacting, graphic descriptions of abortion procedures, the Supreme Court seemed unlikely Wednesday to uphold a federal law that bans so-called partial-birth abortions.

nabob · « **Reply #22 on:** November 08, 2006, 08:31:31 PM »

I can't believe someone is blaming a predicted loss in the Supreme Court on abortion on an election loss to the Democrats.

After Bush got to nominate a replacement for the lone vote that has stood in the way for years on this subject (O'Connor) and replaced that justice with a strong conservative (Alito), folks are STILL going to blame the Dems for a failure to make a persuasive argument on this subject? Talk about passing the buck.

Congress could have easily decided to write language that would pass Constitutional muster and decided to grandstand instead. Guess we'll see if grandstanding makes good law or not.

BTW, predicting the outcome of a decision based on questioning is probably a 50/50 proposition. It ain't over till it's over.

ironglow · « **Reply #23 on:** November 08, 2006, 10:30:28 PM »

Nabob is right there..if the court fails to uphold a law protecting little boys and girls from having their brains sucked into a vacuum bottle...I would have to blame that failure on the lack of conscience of certain "justices" .

In which case, the term "justice" would be a laughable commentary !

williamlayton · « **Reply #24 on:** November 09, 2006, 12:56:43 AM »

THE LAW has long had its scholars who would try and tell others what the law meant--define it till it squeeked and had no more law in it.
The courts have gone from defending the law as written to making law by definition.
Too many scholars.
Blessings

Brett · « **Reply #25 on:** November 09, 2006, 01:36:22 AM »

Nabob, I can't believe someone as liberal as you actually owns guns.

I'm not blaming the Democrats. But one has to wounder would the Justice be as apt to question the constitutionality of the law if the Republicans were still in power?

I think we will start to see a lot of liberal judges stretching their muscles because they will view the results of this election as a green light to thier liberal stances.

jrlinz · « **Reply #26 on:** November 09, 2006, 04:22:12 AM »

Those negative campaign ads really do brainwash a heck of a lot of people, just like the scientists and psychologists said.

Heavy C · « **Reply #27 on:** November 09, 2006, 06:45:08 AM »

Quote from: TM7 on November 09, 2006, 02:04:56 AM

Quote from: Ramos1212 on November 07, 2006, 06:12:17 PM
Well it looks like a split down the middle. What truly worries me is the thought of Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House.
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Maybe....but she is a member of the CFR I believe....the agenda continues with this tag off. The Repubs sure missguaged the unhappiness around the country though.

.........TM7

That's so true TM7. It will take a very long time to get back on the good side of Americans. Of course it's also probably just a matter of time before a Democrat will go off and do something to cause contreversy and upset people. It seems to be cyclical.

victorcharlie · « **Reply #28 on:** November 09, 2006, 12:30:58 PM »

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.The Repubs sure missguaged the unhappiness around the country though.

.........TM7

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They didn't ask. They got arrogant and forgot who it takes to keep them in power. Maybe they'll remember the contract with america next time.

nabob · « **Reply #29 on:** November 11, 2006, 02:07:33 PM »

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Nabob, I can't believe someone as liberal as you actually owns guns.

Funny thing is, I am called a right wing Neanderthal when I poke holes in people's arguments on leftist boards. So it goes. I guess I'm whatever people need to demonize at the moment. Glad to be of service!!

Maybe the real answer is I don't pigeonhole easily.

One of the things that I've found is that people who believe one way tend to associate with others who think the same way. They all tend to reinforce their own thinking. If I present an argument that pokes a hole in a cherished viewpoint, consider that maybe the viewpoint isn't as ironclad as you might think. It doesn't mean that I somehow AGREE with the counter argument, just that one can be made.

I dislike Al Franken Democrats about as much as I dislike Rush Limbaugh Republicans.