Ruger 77 MKII

[jmckinley]

  I keep reading how bad the triggers are on these rifles my 2 new rifles in 06 and 22-250 seem fine to me. I shot both rifles for the first time this weekend and to say the least am happy with my rifles. 06 place 150 gr power Shok in 3/4" group ay 100 yds. The largest 3 shot group was 1 1/2 inches and I pulled one if not could have been 1/2". My 22-250 was even better. Nothing over an inch in 10 groups. With a couple 3 shots in one hole. I have a couple of very nice rifles. Strong as a tank and accurate as well. I my clean the triggers up but right now see no need.      Jess

[Shooter973]

I've had about the same with "most" of my Ruger rifles!!! Only have one that really needed the trigger worked on and it is still the original trigger, just cleaned up by a gunsmith!!! .  Great rifles as far as I'm concerned, good value for the money!!!

[Syncerus]

Well, you were lucky.



The trigger on my new M77II was awful; I'm having an aftermarket trigger installed right now. That said, I like the rifle. I don't know whether it makes a difference or not, but mine was one of the all-weather stainless models.

[jmckinley]

  Finally spent sometime at the range and triggers and all these rifle shoot. My 22-250 placed 6 three shot groups from 1 1/4" to the smallest of 3/8" at 100 yards. I used Winchester white box. The 06 was nearly as good nothing over an 1 1/2" with most running near the 1 inch mark. I was using Winchester 165gr Power Points. I am going to re-work the triggers but still veryt shootable. Jess

[Syncerus]

I just got mine back from the gunsmith. He installed a new Timney and the results are unbelievable. All I can say is that I won't put my finger inside the trigger guard until I'm ready to shoot. The new trigger is absolutely terrific.

[ScoutMan]

Finally spent sometime at the range and triggers and all these rifle shoot. My 22-250 placed 6 three shot groups from 1 1/4" to the smallest of 3/8" at 100 yards. I used Winchester white box. The 06 was nearly as good nothing over an 1 1/2" with most running near the 1 inch mark. I was using Winchester 165gr Power Points. I am going to re-work the triggers but still veryt shootable. Jess

A good trigger only shines from the non-steady positions (off hand, sqat, kneeling, etc.). Also, under field conditions you are usually under time restraits. The steadier the shooting position (bench, prone) the more time avaiable the less a good trigger matters. Good groups can be shot from the bench with a bad trigger.

[safetysheriff]

i've re-worked a few 77Mk II triggers per www.centerfirecentral.com website. (if it's still there). the results were simply amazing.   i'll take a Ruger over a Winchester or a Browning anytime....especially considering the money and the durability involved.

i disagree, ScoutMan......    a bad trigger is no good off a bench either.   that's why the guys from the benchrest community pay for good triggers!

take care,all,

ss'   

[flintlock]

Syncerus...It's not a good idea to put your finger in the trigger guard until you are ready to shoot, no matter what the trigger pull is on a trigger...

[daddywpb]

A good trigger only shines from the non-steady positions (off hand, sqat, kneeling, etc.). Also, under field conditions you are usually under time restraits. The steadier the shooting position (bench, prone) the more time avaiable the less a good trigger matters. Good groups can be shot from the bench with a bad trigger.

I also disagree. There's a reason why benchrest shooters pay for a nice crisp trigger. The trigger is the connection between you and the rifle. Creep, overtravel and excessive weight on a factory trigger is not conducive to good shooting, whether it's off a bench at the range or over a tree limb in the field. A crisp, clean breaking trigger will make anyone a better shot. Weight of pull is a personal choice. I prefer mine to be light, even on a hunting rifle because that's what I'm used to. Anyone who says that trigger pull doesn't make a difference has never fired a rifle with a good trigger. Had to throw my .02's in on this one.

[ScoutMan]

Not really disagreeing. But bench shooting is not necessary an indication of field shooting ability. I guess the only point I'm trying to make is that small increments in rifle groups  are not significant. What is significant is the small groups obtained by the shooter in the field.

As Father Frog has so aptly pointed out "If you can't do it with a 2 minute rifle, you can't so it with anything.

For a thoughtful discussion of this topic go to Fr. Frog's websight and read quesition # 5 in Miscellaneous- "Will a more accurate rifle make me a better shot".

[safetysheriff]

As Father Frog has so aptly pointed out "If you can't do it with a 2 minute rifle, you can't so it with anything.

the guys and gals on a number of forums would laugh themselves silly over that one, ScoutMan.   a truly dedicated shooter.....who uses his/her skill to go hunting in a humane and responsible manner......will tell you that in a lot of varminting and in long-distance hunting it is the 3/4 minute rifle (or better) that gets the job done.  when the animals don't cooperate by coming in close, or when they require a shot that "threads the needle" i'll take a steady rest and a 3/4 moa rifle (or better) any time. 

i've seen where it has made a difference.

take care,

ss'