My 2" groups from my 35 whelen have turned into 2 FOOT (well,not really) groups. I went to the range today to make sure the sights were on and practice a little. The bullets were all over the target!! I went to another gun and shot a 1 1/2 inch group with it,a 6mm AI. Shot some fireform loads thru the Whelen.then tried for another group.Same pattern.. I'm going back tommorrow with some UNaltered 358318's loaded the same . If they pattern I cant take the gun to Maine Friday! I checked my notes and did the same to these bullets as when I got the 2" groups,It's the SAME alloy from the original alloying session. I make at least 20 pounds at a time.