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Offline shootdonniebrook

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sierra gameking
« on: November 13, 2006, 02:10:41 PM »
Has anyone used this bullet on deer size game? PMC loads this bullet in a 140gr btsp, and it shoots great in my encore pro hunter 7mm mag. The box says muzzle velocity is 3125 from a 24" barrel, What can I expect from my 28" barrel? My shots on deer will be from 40 to 125 yards, will this bullet perform on a solid shoulder shot?

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Re: sierra gameking
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2006, 02:19:07 PM »
  The bullet will do its part! Why are you NOT aiming for the heart/lung area? The shoulder shot might damage a lot more edible meat.I've used it in the 7-08 and .280 with excellent results on several deer each.

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Re: sierra gameking
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2006, 02:30:42 PM »
I aim for the front shoulder because I need the buck to drop where he stands. I'm hunting on the top of a very steep mountain in a small saddle, if he runs more than 30 yards my drag time goes up 2 plus hours.

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Re: sierra gameking
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2006, 02:32:50 PM »
I wouldn't recommend shoulder shots with that load.  Heart/lung shots are fine.  The Sierra GK is too frangible for that kind of speed.  I use the 160's and keep velocity around 2850.  When using the 140gr I like the Nosler Partition at around 3150.

I killed a buck last night with the 160 GK and it did great.  I kept it behind the shoulder at 100yds and he staggered sideways and died.
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Re: sierra gameking
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2006, 02:37:06 AM »
I aim for the front shoulder because I need the buck to drop where he stands. I'm hunting on the top of a very steep mountain in a small saddle, if he runs more than 30 yards my drag time goes up 2 plus hours.

The Gameking, with a heart/lung shot, should give you the results you want minus the 2 hour pack out.  That is the bullet's reputation.  You won't find a better bullet for a well-placed heart/lung shot.
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Re: sierra gameking
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2006, 06:52:22 AM »
I can understand shootdonniebrook concerns regarding a game animal taking one big step in steep country.  I advocate that a shoulder shot that breaks the shoulder and penetrates the chest cavity may aid the recover of game.  And reduce the damage to meat, and loss of the animal.

I have spent much of my deer hunting life hunting 70 percent slopes, or in mountain man talk “beyond the point of repose.”  I shot a buck across the canyon on a narrow ridge top.  His final lunge put him over the edge and  he slide to the bottom.  Instead of a relative easy drag up the spine of the ridge he was on, I had to cut him into and carry the parts to the top of the hill where my vehicle was parked.  Both the deer and I was covered in meat bees. (Yellow jackets)  Instead of climbing the easier ridge top, I had to fight the face of a steep draw, one in which you go to one step up, and slide down two steps.

Another nice buck was shot behind the shoulder at about 40-yards with the .270 Winchester.  The bullet destroyed the heart and lungs and did massive damage to the rib cage on the far side.  The buck took a couple of steps, slide, and fell a few hundred feet downhill.  I was lucky because there was a road down below.

I was watching a buck in my binoculars when my hunting partner shot it with a 165-grain bullet from a 30-06.  I saw matter fly of the perfect behind the shoulder shot, along with steam coming out the entrance and exit holes.  The buck took a few steeps and fell off a hundred foot cliff.  It was great fun getting him back up to the top.

In another recent post I described encountering a cowboy coming out of the hills with the raw skull and horns of a Mule deer tied to the back of his saddle.  He found the decaying buck while moving cattle off the summer range ahead of a snowstorm.  The kill appeared to have happen on the closing weekend of deer season.  I do not know why this deer was lost, but would a bone-smashing bullet made the difference?

I prefer to use heavy for caliber bullets because many times fatally shot deer do not drop on a dime.  In the 6.5 I like 140 grain bullets, the .270 gets fed 140 or 150 grain bullets, the 7MM gets 160 and 175 grain bullets.  And I like 165-grain bullets in .30 calibers for deer.

I normally do not take a shoulder shot, but it is not an option that I reject.


I would recommend you try a heavier bullet in the your 7 Mag.  I still have a good supply of Speer 145 grain bullets for my 7Mag.  They are accurate and the recoil is a little lighter.  Speer recommends that bullets of 145 grains and lighter be restricted to antelope and smaller game.  I traded a few boxes of 150 grain power points to my brother for 160 grain Speer Hot-Cor Spitzers.  The heavier bullet will smash both shoulders of a deer along with causing masive damage inside the chest cavity.  The choice maybe lost meat or a lost animal.
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Re: sierra gameking
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2006, 08:53:17 AM »
The attach picture shows that even a deer in it’s bed present a tough shot at fifty yard off hand.  A behind the shoulder shot is not the answer because a high velocity bullet will blow open the top of the stomach and liver creating a mess in this situation.  I think the best option is on the shoulder.  The right bullet will break the shoulder and penetrate the chest cavity.  The lungs and heart will be destroyed resulting in a quick kill.  Bone fragments will be carried into the chest cavity contributing to the kill.

A 160-grain 7MM Mag. bullet should fully penetrate the deer at this range.

Should the deer move slightly the hunter should still be on target. 


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