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I'm going to whine and whinge a little...
« on: November 13, 2006, 05:13:29 PM »
I recently had an expensive medical hit and to raise some funds, I decided (reluctantly) to give my NEFs and Handis new homes.  I am keeping two receivers , one 223 heavy barrel, and some favorite stocks. Including the 2 Sportster 22s I have for my kids, that is the sum total of NEFs currently in the gun rack.

I am not sure what kind of experiences other Handi-holics might have encountered when faced with withdrawl symptoms, but I find myself looking often a the pics of what I used to have, reading this forum, scanning the classified forum, ocassionaly visiting the NEF web page, and taking deep sighing breaths when something interesting shows up!!  :'(  Ocassionally I even find myself thinking of putting a stock under my pillow at bedtime. My wife (also a dedicated shooter) might not object, but I haven't actually taken that step yet! But when/if I do, I think I'd start with this one (stock that is):



I am unaware of any official recovery program for Handi-holics, or any institutional support systems. Of course I could have missed something, so if anyone has any info on such programs, please let me - and the rest of us - know. (If I didn't hate having the government already meddling in much of my everyday life, I'd become a Handi activist, and start lobbying for some kind of funding for this lack! Maybe I could petition Marlin - after all, I know that there really is no cure, only a temporary inablity to acquire - and once the initial financial hit, and subsequent pain of separation wears off, I know my Handi acquisition resumes.)

But ya know, in spite of all the moaning, I am actually grateful for the health part of this experience. I had planned to take my 11 yr old son hunting for the first time this year, but the truth was/is that I was in such a borderline state physically that it was actually possible (in fact, likely) that if we had gone hunting this year, he'd probably have had to drag me out of the bush after I had collapsed! :-[  This would not be a good thing for either of us!

Now, because of the sudden ER visit a couple of weeks ago, I have changed my habits (I was diagnosed with diabetes) and fully expecct I will be in much better condition to go hunting with him next year. This, in spite of current problems and challenges, is (as Martha Stewart would say) "... a good thing."

It was brought home to me that I was spending a lot of time in fear, pretence, and denial about how fit I was. And it was an important moment when I became seriously aware that I am willing to change my rather lackadasickal habits around food and exercise in order to hunt with my son. (I am divorced from his mother, and he lives with her, so I don't see him as much as in an intact family.)

I hunted with my dad and uncles as a kid, and if I don't pass those experiences on, my son won't get any other chances to experience, not only the practical aspects, but deeper spiritual meanings that come from time spent in the fields and forests.  Since I was in my teens, I have always considered hunting a form of prayer. He will not get this from his step-dad. That I know!

And, knowing that I will be taking my son hunting next fall, there is also the motivation of paying off the bills, and getting enough together to buy us each a Handi for next season. Let's see... maybe a 357 mag for him, and a 30/30 for me, or the other way around, or maybe a pair of 357s or 30/30s... or... I'm sure gonna have fun anticipating!  ;)

Anyway, I also want to give my thanks to all the folks who have helped me over the years I have been on this forum (some of you don't even know how you helped, but you did) those I have traded with, and all you other regular guys for listening to my little story, and much thanks to Graybeard and Matt for creating and supporting this forum. It is a life saver and may be the only way, currently, for this Handi-holic to manage the symptoms of (temporary) withdrawl.

Cheers
Kerry  ;D
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Re: I'm going to whine and winge a little...
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2006, 05:48:46 PM »
I only have one handi rifle and a pardner shotgun, but if you are close to eastern PA, please feel free to join me at the range.

It's not a full blown solution, but might help short term.

I'm glad that you are getting better.

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Re: I'm going to whine and winge a little...
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2006, 05:57:28 PM »
Kerry:
Best of luck. By the way, that pictured Ultra looks just like a factory 357 Max I once owned.
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Re: I'm going to whine and winge a little...
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2006, 06:06:25 PM »
Kerry,

Best to you and your son, if you ever need a Handi, let me know, I'd be glad to send one or 2 your way for loan or purchase, which ever works for ya!! That little .30-30 I bought from ya needs to make meat if you ever need it back.  I can always use some help shooting them and blowing the cobwebs out of em!!! :o

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Re: I'm going to whine and winge a little...
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2006, 06:06:57 PM »
hey guy ,, yu know how we stand on things , !!!!! if ya need somthing iam here

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Re: I'm going to whine and winge a little...
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2006, 11:09:19 PM »
I kind of expected I'd find some positive thoughts on this forum.

Wally, that pic is a factory 357 Max. I bought it last year from the classifieds here  but I don't remember where, or who. I kept the stocks and traded the receiver to Tim, the barrel is gone too.

Tim I will let you know if I haven't got it together by next season - but truthfully I don't want to take the chance of beating up that sweet littleTopper on a hunting trip. I'd feel terrible if it got bunged up under my care.

Shane, you are one of the good guys,a pleasure to deal with.

Lotus, you too, even though we haven't been officially introduced ;) and thanks for the generous offer, if I'm in PA I'll check in with ya, but for now I'm staying home in WA state.

Thanks guys for the good cheer. It mean a lot and I appreciate it.
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Re: I'm going to whine and winge a little...
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2006, 02:05:11 AM »
Hi Kerry, I want you to know our thoughts and prayers are with you, and with your great attitude and drive things will only get better. If at any time you want some stocks done, either for you or your children,  just ship them out and let me know how you want them to look, they will returned as my gift to you and your kids. Best of luck buddy, and remember an old signature line of mine that served me well for many years, never, never, never, give up!!!....<><.... :) 
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Re: I'm going to whine and winge a little...
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2006, 05:05:34 AM »
Good luck on your recovery. I am an ordained minister and I will pray for you (smile). I will wipe a cloth over my 26 plus NEF/H&Rs and think of you.

And, yes that picture sure does look like the 357 Max that Wally (mt3030) used to own. It is grazing in my pasture now.

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Re: I'm going to whine and winge a little...
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2006, 10:26:30 AM »
And, yes that picture sure does look like the 357 Max that Wally (mt3030) used to own. It is grazing in my pasture now.
Glad to hear it's still in the family.
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Re: I'm going to whine and winge a little...
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2006, 10:40:32 AM »
Andy, thanks for the offer. You did a lovely job on the stocks I sent you, and I still have one that I'm saving to put on whatever I get for next season (quick got the other one when he bought my 30/30 Topper).

Kenbev (and others) I appreciate the prayers, and thank y'all for including me.

Cheers
Kerry
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Re: I'm going to whine and whine a little...
« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2006, 03:08:00 PM »
got a dorvice that gave me the same       withouthandy syndrome......it will get better just like you will.....then you will recover and you will recover lots  and lots of handys.......i know been with a handfull now have plenty....even enough to share come deer season or any other season you might need.just tell me watch want...ill loan it to  you    and some of mine look prety ulgy so some battle scares wood give  caracter ::).......keep the faith ....jb

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Re: I'm going to whine and whine a little...
« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2006, 05:20:25 PM »
Your posting made me laugh jbtazgrabber because this is the second 'handi-withdrawl' (actually 'gun-withdrawl") for me - I too had a divorce that emptied my gun locker about 6 years ago. I was recovering from that, and managed to keep my collection much more subdued, until this hit ... oh well... as I said in the first post, ..."this is a good thing..." Trutfully I would be completely content if I just end up with only two guns next season for my son and myself, that will be just fine.

And, I am grateful and touched by your kind offer. I will check back in the fall if I think I can add more battle scars for you.

Cheers
Kerry

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Re: I'm going to whine and whine a little...
« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2006, 06:07:51 PM »

Email me at dana@aplace4us.com if you have any questions about your condition.  I am no expert but I do have some knowledge and experience with it.  Just feel free to ask me if you have any questions.  Good luck and look to have you back in the woods soon!
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Re: I'm going to whine and whine a little...
« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2006, 06:56:04 PM »

 Hello Kerry, Feel for you with health problems, Just watch your blood sugar,
 and take care what you eat, The bad thing if it is bad is two shots a day,
  (  I don't mean a handi shot) My Son has had to take insulin shots for
 over 20 years. Take care Prayers are with you and yours. Marv.

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Re: I'm going to whine and whine a little...
« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2006, 07:32:21 PM »
datil, thanks for the support. You might be interested to know that I decided to go on a low carb diet immediately, and since then, I got my glucose down to more normal levels, have lost 9 lbs, and feel physically better than I have in years. I also have a good friend who is a diabetic nurse and coach, and she's been really helpful in recommending websites and books.

Dana, thank you too for your offer. I might just check in with you next week. I have a doctor's appointment (first since the hosp) on Tuesday, and I may have some questions after that.

The main 'negative' thing about the situation is having to spend my money on something other than toys!  :P The hospital visit was a big unexpedted financial hit, and there are more coming (including medications) all in all it has just taken us (and our bank account) by surprise.  :o

Just three weeks ago I had hopes of finding festively wrapped shootin' irons under the Christmas tree this year... I was even ready to buy a couple myself.  ;) Next year's Christmas will be better - especially if there's some venison in the freezer!

Cheers
Kerry

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Re: I'm going to whine and whine a little...
« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2006, 02:28:17 AM »
come on guys , dont go to the , divorce thing iam just finishin one up now  aaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and god created all equal????? maybe so but in a divorce it sure dont  go that way hahahahahahh ive peddled  quite a few toys  so  far hope iam bout done with that part of it,

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Re: I'm going to whine and whine a little...
« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2006, 05:17:51 AM »
Shane,
Divorce is definitely able to generate a pile of aaaaaaaarrrrrrggggggg!!!!!!!!!!!!! all right, and though toys get peddled, and lawyers get paid, as far as I am concerned the worst part to manage is the aaaaaaaarrrrrrggggggg!!!!!!!!!!!!! part. There's a lot of stress potential there, and it can get in one's way of enjoying whatever toys are left.

If you want someone with an understanding ear to listen to your aaaaaaaarrrrrrggggggg!!!!!!!!!!!!!, someone who's recently been there, done that, and found a way to let it go, I think you have my phone number... if ya don', click on my email link or PM me, and I'll send it to you again.

Cheers
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Re: I'm going to whine and whinge a little...
« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2006, 12:29:10 AM »
thanks again friend, i have it and will do just that someday , things been goin so so sofar, but aint over  yet ,, but hey iam still smilin  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: I'm going to whine and whinge a little...
« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2006, 02:41:48 AM »
Shane,

Like Kerry said, you need to vent or talk you can drop me a line also, I have been stupid enough to have two divorces  ;D ;D
I guess I am a glutton for punishment!


And Kerry, you hang in there, you will be in my prayers for getting better and everything turning out ok.

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Re: I'm going to whine and whinge a little...
« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2006, 11:42:19 AM »
thanks greg cant have to many friends, and i thank yu for offerin,  ill let ya know, iave been gett along so so, so ill keep my chin up> did yu say 2 divorces????? wow yu be one tough dude !!!! ;D ;D ;) ;)

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« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2006, 12:42:16 PM »
thanks greg cant have to many friends, and i thank yu for offerin,  ill let ya know, iave been gett along so so, so ill keep my chin up> did yu say 2 divorces????? wow yu be one tough dude !!!! ;D ;D ;) ;)

Shane,

Yep, done it twice, don't know if I am tough or just stupid  :o But I know better now... maybe... Just keep your chin up and keep smiling, makes them wonder what the heck your up to!

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Re: I'm going to whine and whinge a little...
« Reply #21 on: November 21, 2006, 12:56:03 PM »
Twice divorced here too, but the 3rd time was the charm, happily married for 23yrs now, don't give up or let it get ya down, life's too short!! ;)

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« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2006, 02:38:10 PM »
iam yu took the words right out of my mouth , aint goin to let it  slow me down its her loss hahahah but ill keep right on growin weather she likes it or not, was yu scared the thrid time??? sort of oh man should i do this???????

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« Reply #23 on: November 21, 2006, 03:00:06 PM »
Nope, weren't scared, knew what I wanted, just had a hard time finding her!!! ??? The funny thing is, we worked at the same Post Office for 15yrs before I knew her very well!! ???

Tim
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