Author Topic: H&R WISH LIST (Read 46970 times)

kevinsmith5 · « **Reply #360 on:** December 18, 2011, 03:25:57 PM »

A single shot 45 LC or .357 Mag pistol. If Rossi can make that single shot 45 LC with a matched 22 LR barrel I keep seeing I figure H&R ought to be able to.

cwlongshot · « **Reply #361 on:** December 19, 2011, 12:24:50 AM »

Just in case Remington is reading....

The 7-30 Waters is a excellent caliber that would make a great addition to the Handi lineup!!

The 307 and 356 Winchester are also excellent calibers for this platform!

CW

dave29 · « **Reply #362 on:** December 19, 2011, 01:58:57 AM »

I agree, andI keep saying it over and over....

7-30 waters!

tobster · « **Reply #363 on:** December 19, 2011, 02:16:55 AM »

The trilogy- 32-20,25-20.218 bee.

silver surfer · « **Reply #364 on:** December 19, 2011, 11:26:15 AM »

Dear Santa,
Would you have your elves make a .303 British with a 25" barrel and iron sights, and a .356/.358 Win with a 22" barrel with iron sights? I promise I won't shoot my eye out if I get them for Christmas.

mo_bio · « **Reply #365 on:** December 19, 2011, 03:03:53 PM »

Would like to see 6.5x55, .260, 6.5 creed, 6.5-06 I see a pattern here...

ibgp3 · « **Reply #366 on:** December 20, 2011, 12:49:43 AM »

Neck the .300 blackout down to 6.5mm, call it the 6.5handi.

...or add a 6.5 blank to the accessory program.
Then we can rechamber to whatever we want.

dave29 · « **Reply #367 on:** December 20, 2011, 02:33:50 AM »

Anything in 6.5 would be awesome.

sobeit · « **Reply #368 on:** December 22, 2011, 02:44:17 PM »

How about a 45ACP Handi ....Talking big bore sub-sonic.................

wganz · « **Reply #369 on:** March 18, 2012, 03:30:48 PM »

Quote from: ibgp3 on December 20, 2011, 12:49:43 AM

Neck the .300 blackout down to 6.5mm, call it the 6.5handi.

...or add a 6.5 blank to the accessory program.
Then we can rechamber to whatever we want.

Since Remington renamed the .300 Whisper to .300 BLK, why not just rename the 6.5 Whisper to 6.5 BLK also?

moorepower · « **Reply #370 on:** March 18, 2012, 09:38:20 PM »

.17 HH

bikerbeans · « **Reply #371 on:** March 19, 2012, 01:00:41 AM »

Quote from: sobeit on December 22, 2011, 02:44:17 PM

How about a 45ACP Handi ....Talking big bore sub-sonic.................

I love my Handi 45 ACP.

BB

tony212 · « **Reply #372 on:** March 19, 2012, 01:39:33 AM »

If we are dreaming, how about this idea.........You order what you want and they put the parts together for you. For instance, lets say you want a .30-30 but you want iron sights and a buffalo classic stock. You send in a form and they put it together for you. Or you want a .22-250 in stainless steel with a thumbhole stock. Send in your form and they build it for you. You pick the options and they put it together for you. Kind of a custom rifle shop using H&R parts.

Tony212

gcrank1 · « **Reply #373 on:** March 19, 2012, 05:26:08 AM »

Just like WE do here!

roadchoad · « **Reply #374 on:** March 19, 2012, 01:28:49 PM »

How about a light shotgun/center fire combo gun like the Savage 24, but with gauge and caliber options like the Handi?

cheatermk3 · « **Reply #375 on:** March 20, 2012, 02:14:11 PM »

I haven't been here for awhile and don't have time to read this whole thread so forgive me if I'm being repetitious but I'd like a barrel in 7,62x54r. I'm seriously thinkin' about a stub project.

dpe.ahoy · « **Reply #376 on:** March 20, 2012, 06:55:09 PM »

Quote from: cwlongshot on December 19, 2011, 12:24:50 AM

Just in case Remington is reading....

The 7-30 Waters is a excellent caliber that would make a great addition to the Handi lineup!!

The 307 and 356 Winchester are also excellent calibers for this platform!

CW

It shore nuff is

, I like mine plenty!

223 barrel bored to 7mm and rechambered, sweet cartridge for the Handi. DP

geartow · « **Reply #377 on:** May 10, 2012, 06:22:06 PM »

I think H&R needs a custom shop, That was we can one of a kind factory gun to our specs . Who knows maybe with enuff proddin it could become reality. Maybe if we get really lucky "BRIAN56" can run it .

Dinny · « **Reply #378 on:** May 11, 2012, 12:43:15 AM »

Not a bad idea, however, many have tried and none have ever succeeded in convincing H&R. I think it's going to take something along those lines to keep them competitive with the average-budget bolt guns. What kind of expectations could we reasonably have of a H&R Custom Shop? I think for starts we could expect rechambers like the .356 Win, 30-40 Krag, .303 Brit, .357 Max, .22H-K, .17 H, etc. From there we might get lucky and be offered custom chambers on unchambered barrels. Who knows, maybe we could even dream a little and have them offer an interchangeable barrel system.

Thanks, Dinny at KAF

RPRNY · « **Reply #379 on:** May 11, 2012, 03:54:20 AM »

It's all about economics and perception. We want a customs shop so that we can get off the wall calibers. BUT, we represent a VERY small pool of gun buyers. To compensate for volume there would have to be considerable margin (profit per unit/rifle). Are we, and many others I would imagine, willing to pay $350 (guesstimate) per barrel? So, the economics of it are 1) What is the potential market per annum; 2) what is the investment cost for H&R; 3) what are the projections on revenues? The perception side of this is: How will this help improve volumes for the mainstream product lines (margins need not be as healthy if this is a demonstrable product promotion) or enhance competitiveness?

The idea has some merit but it has to be examined and addressed from the perspective of management and shareholder. How does an H&R Custom Shop deliver shareholder value? All other considerations are far subsidiary. In order to do this properly, it would need at least the tacit agreement of management to investigate the project, it would need access to some fairly sensitive internal data (and a lot of confidentiality agreement signing), substantial knowledge of the technical side (investment cost evaluation), and a healthy skepticism in preparation of a pitch to management if the project were deemed feasible.

I have a fairly strong background in strategic planning, budget creation and brand development/marketing and would certainly be willing to help, but to move anywhere, it needs someone at H&R, perhaps Brian, to be strongly supportive, and someone reasonably high up the food chain to be at least tolerant/indulgent of the initiative.

petemi · « **Reply #380 on:** May 11, 2012, 04:00:30 AM »

I agree with RPRNY, Remington would have to see some bucks at the end of the rainbow.

I don't know why they don't bring back the Maxi and mark the barrel ".38 Spl, .357 Mag, .357 Max" It wouldn't cost a dime more to ream the chamber deeper. If someone didn't want to use the Maxi, the other two would still shoot well. It would also help revitalize interest in the Maxi and in the long run make it easier to get ammo and brass.

We all know making interchangeable barrels would be cost prohibitive and would take them completely out of competition. They're having a hard enough time now against the inexpensive bolt guns. The .356/.358 is a great idea, but you'd have to convince the public to buy a "dead" caliber At 50 bucks a box, that's not going to happen too soon.

Just my two cents.

Pete

OldSchoolRanger · « **Reply #381 on:** May 11, 2012, 04:21:43 AM »

Quote from: petemi on May 11, 2012, 04:00:30 AM

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I don't know why they don't bring back the Maxi and mark the barrel ".38 Spl, .357 Mag, .357 Max" It wouldn't cost a dime more to ream the chamber deeper. If someone didn't want to use the Maxi, the other two would still shoot well. It would also help revitalize interest in the Maxi and in the long run make it easier to get ammo and brass....

Just my two cents.

Pete

Pete,
That's a great idea! Just think, for marketing purposes, a rifle that shoots three different calibers! That would definitely appeal to those that are looking for "interchangeability" of calibers in an inexpensive rifle. That was probably one of the selling points of the Rossi Judge, S&W Governor, and H&R's own 45/410 barrel.

I also think that's what attracted most of us to H&R in the first place, and it would cost H&R peanuts. They would definitely sell more .357Max/357Mag/38Spec barrels.

The only downside for H&R is that they might lose sales in their .357Mag (SB1) rifles.

hex · « **Reply #382 on:** May 11, 2012, 04:56:18 AM »

I think Remington needs to step up in the single shot category and complete with TC. The first aspect to contend with the TC would be a redesign of the rifle to accept magnum rounds. Now, the question is, being that Remington is a large company, do they want the expend the resources from their main products? Or, would the H&R product line be better served as an independent company again?

petemi · « **Reply #383 on:** May 11, 2012, 05:37:19 AM »

I'd like to see them bring back the fine old products they used to make, handguns, shotguns, bolt guns and semi-autos. It would really be nuts to be able to buy a brand new Garand

Oh well....dream on kid.

Pete

hex · « **Reply #384 on:** May 11, 2012, 06:00:04 AM »

Quote from: petemi on May 11, 2012, 05:37:19 AM

I'd like to see them bring back the fine old products they used to make, handguns, shotguns, bolt guns and semi-autos. It would really be nuts to be able to buy a brand new Garand Oh well....dream on kid.

Pete

I agree Pete. Could even take to making some custom rifles of the -06 wildcat species. 338-06 Garand anyone?

wganz · « **Reply #385 on:** May 11, 2012, 06:53:09 AM »

Given the profit margins, my suggestion would be to add calibers to the Barrel Accessory Program that are requested but would never sell enough to justify keeping a SKU for. This could be easier done since it is possible to allow H&R to use barrel stock and chambering reamers from Remington and Marlin. The biggest hurdle will be interdepartment rivalry/politics than having an accounting weanies fill out supply transfer forms for Bubba in a pickup going over to the Marlin shop to pick up five .338 barrel blanks and .338 Marlin Express chambering reamers and then over to the Remington shop for five more 6.5 barrel blanks and 6.5 Creedmoor + .260 Remington reamers. Some 6.8 SPC reamers could go in the same tool box. Assign a part number to the barrels and have the web site updated.

We could have .338 Marlin Express, 6.5 Creedmoor, .260 Remington, and 6.8 SPC barrels available within two days with zero overall costs to Cerberus Capital Management.

OSOK · « **Reply #386 on:** May 11, 2012, 08:16:08 AM »

I agree new calibers like .260 Rem would be nice, and the return of some older ones like .38-55 in the TC would be great. The two things I would like to see out of a H&R Custom shop would be a lighter barrel option and the ability to order a rifle with the options you want: sights, BC wood, whatever.
I love to tinker with my guns, but sometimes it's nice to just order one ready to go. Make a 22" slender barrel .30-30 with BC wood and nice iron sights and I'll be first in line to place my order.
Expanding the superlight line of barrels would be nice. A five pound rifle that is short and carries well in a powerful caliber? once again, I'll be first in line. I realize that they are meant for youths, but I am probably going to get a .243 superlight compact very soon. The older I get the more obvious it becomes that I carry my rifle A LOT more that I shoot deer with it. Why .243? Simply because it is the heaviest caliber available in the light rifle. If I could get it in .30-30 or .308 I would, but that isn't an option.
They would also do well to pick up on the AR family of caliber. I realize that there is nothing a .458 SOCOM will do that my .45-70 won't, but I can buy 4-5 Handi's in those calibers before i can get one AR. And, the Handi will probably be more accurate out of the box to boot.

petemi · « **Reply #387 on:** May 11, 2012, 08:56:39 AM »

OSOK, you can get a 7mm-08 in the Super Light. That's considerably more than the .243. Dinny, my wife Patty and I have them. A bunch of others here have them too, but I can't recall who they are. It's a very, very nice little rifle.

Pete

quickdtoo · « **Reply #388 on:** May 11, 2012, 09:29:21 AM »

Like the dozens of previous discussions on this topic, it's turned into a wish list, so it's been added to the long running existing Wish List from the FAQs so all suggestions are in one place.

Tim

8uck5nort · « **Reply #389 on:** May 11, 2012, 09:51:57 AM »

i'll add my .02.
I have aqcuired 5 handi's in the last year .223, .17HMR, 357 mag/max, 44 mag, 500 S&W, so here it goes.

Only design change I would make. I don't want them to mess up a good thing.

Better trigger or a drop in trigger design to accomodate aftermarket triggers.

Cool calibers I wish I had.

8mm Mauser offered in sporter or full length stocks
8mm-06
7mm Mauser offered in sporter or full length stocks
6.5 Sweede Mauser
303 Brit
7.62x54R
454 Casull or 460 S&W on SB2 reciever
500 S&W with a threaded barrel to accept muzzle brakes. Keep it similar to the threading on a 50 Beowulf AR upper for aftermarket products.
.50 Beowulf or 458 SOCOM just to tweak the noses of the AR crowd. Need these barrels threaded too.