Author Topic: 6mmremington (Read 4036 times)

varmintman · « **on:** November 18, 2006, 09:31:01 AM »

Hi, new here, just wondering if there are any shooters of this fine round? Mine is a ruger#1B that I use on varmints mostly on woodchucks, and I reload for it. thanks for your reply, varmintman.

Buford · « **Reply #1 on:** November 18, 2006, 09:34:27 AM »

It is an excellent cartridge - no matter what it is callled. It was orginally a 6X57mm, then a .244 Remignton, and then a 6mm Remington. It is simply great, accurate, and easy to load for.........

jpsmith1 · « **Reply #2 on:** November 18, 2006, 02:32:40 PM »

I've got the 6mm and it's smaller brother the .243. A Rem 700 and a 7600 respectively. I reload for the 6mm and am probably going to unload the .243. No need for ballistic duplication. The .243 and 6mm have accounted for a number of deer. They are a great dual purpose round. I plan on starting the 6mm up for varminting maybe this coming spring.

Brithunter · « **Reply #3 on:** November 20, 2006, 09:51:32 AM »

Have onyl fairly recently got with the 6mm Remington. So far I have not had much success with handloading for accuracy. Found out that the old scope I was using has some issues which didn't help so need to get a good scope at some point. Rifle is a P-H 1200V heavy Barrel. Once I get the scope situation sorted I will try again. So far I have been using light bullets like ythe 70 and 85 grain. Later will try some 100 grain ones in the hope I can get it sorted out ready for deer.

kudzu · « **Reply #4 on:** November 21, 2006, 02:35:31 AM »

luv my 6mm rem. have the ruger m77 wal/blue. loaded with 95gr BT over RL22.
prints silver dollar groups at 200 yrds. This is mainlly my yote gun. have tried her on a few deer. Shot a spike behind the shoulder one time because I wanted to see how this setup would work for deer.(great gun for kids ). deer ran about 20yrds before pilling up. No blood trail at all. Had two does line up with their heads about 8'' apart. Saw both fall in their tracks thru the scope when I pulled the trigger. This was only about a 45yrd shot, and to my suprize the 95gr. BT entered and exited both deer. If I were to use this for deer all the time I would probally change bullets, but for yotes it's just fine. For deer I would go 90gr scirroco or 100 sierra game king or maybe barnes tripx.

jpsmith1 · « **Reply #5 on:** November 21, 2006, 02:17:28 PM »

Don't underestimate the 95 gr SST from hornady. Not a step with a facing angle, shoulder/neck shot.

Slamfire · « **Reply #6 on:** November 28, 2006, 04:20:12 PM »

My first rifle was a Remington 722 in .244. I got it when the fellah that had it read how inadequate it was on deer, without a 100 grain bullet. Remington, in those olden days, loaded a 90 CoreLokt that was the best bullet I ever used in that diameter. Of course, the gun writers didn't tell you that the .243's 100 grain bullet passed right through deer with hardly any expansion, back then. Speer made a 105 grain round nose the .244'd stabilize, but I didn't like them, they didn't expand or penetrate as well as the CoreLokt 90. I never did understand that. Unfortunately, Remington dropped the bullet when they changed the name to 6mm. Now the closest you can get is the 87-grain Hornady. I had a 6mm in a model 788 after I lost the use of my right eye, gave up on it, as I couldn't do anything with it that couldn't be done with my Savage .243.

Heavy C · « **Reply #7 on:** November 29, 2006, 07:22:24 AM »

It's a great round - tried and true. Mine is an Encore with a 22" barrel. It'll shoot clover leafs all day long at 100 yds with Federal 100 grain bullets. In the year and a half that I've owned it, it has 3 doe's to it's credit. All were one shot kills. I'm hoping to start hand loading for it in '07, but for right now I'm good with the factory stuff.

Bear Wallow · « **Reply #8 on:** April 05, 2007, 08:26:03 AM »

I really like the 6mm Remington. Especially in my Remington 600. I once had a .257 Roberts and kept the 6mm because it was so accurate.
I use the 6mm for javelina and deer and have even shot 4 bison with brain shots.

S.S. · « **Reply #9 on:** April 05, 2007, 09:54:55 AM »

Don't have one personally but my brother has a Remington semi-auto that he loves..
He bought it from my GRAND PAW_IN_LAW... I have 50 rounds of brass on my bench to load for him as I type this.. It is an excellent cartridge.

221fireball · « **Reply #10 on:** April 06, 2007, 07:02:12 PM »

i got 6mm in a rem 660 bought it new when i was in high school in late 60's looking for a load using rl22 87gr v-max cci200 lr pr i've lost count of deer and groundhogs taken with it i would like to try these bullets on some yotes i've not been able to find any data on this bullet in the 6mm rem

thesteeleboy · « **Reply #11 on:** April 13, 2008, 07:30:48 PM »

God bless the 6mm and the 87 gr Hornady BTHP, Awsome deer bullet.

efremtags · « **Reply #12 on:** April 14, 2008, 02:19:27 PM »

I had one for about 12 years, REM700 varmiter. I liked it, never loved it. It was bedded with a trigger job, but it never shot a good as it looked like it should. I never shota damn thing with it except paper.

I wound up selling it for a guide gun.

Brithunter · « **Reply #13 on:** April 15, 2008, 07:41:37 AM »

Quote from: thesteeleboy on April 13, 2008, 07:30:48 PM

God bless the 6mm and the 87 gr Hornady BTHP, Awsome deer bullet.

So you highly rate the Hornady 87 Grain BTHP for Deer? I have been working with a 6mm Remington for a while now after replacing the old bedding I have been trying some different loads and once I get a replacement scope for the faulty one I think we are getting somewhere and one of the bullets which shows promise is the 87 grain BTHP. Although I could not legally use this bullet in Scotland it's legal in England and Wales so am interested. Oh the rifle is a Parker-Hale 1200V with bull barrel:-

I had robbed the 6x42 off my ZKK 601 that's fitted in the photo then brought a varible that proved to be fauly so it got sent back today.

deltecs · « **Reply #14 on:** April 15, 2008, 11:41:38 AM »

Well for my $.02, I don't think the 87 BTHP is the bullet I'd chose for deer hunting. I've found them too frangible for good penetration on bigger deer. I've used the .243 Win and 6 mm Rem for deer in Alaska and these particular bullets just don't get the job done. Yes, they hit like the hammer of Thor on a straight broadside shot with lots of bloodshot meat damage, but I've yet to find an exit hole and only bullet fragments when dressing them out. I'd prefer something that holds together a bit more for ranking angle shots. A 90 or 95 gr X bullet would be much better. I personally use 100 gr almost exclusively and have not one criticism with them at all.

Brithunter · « **Reply #15 on:** April 15, 2008, 12:46:05 PM »

Thank you for your comments however we must bear in mind that most of the deer I would be shooting will be under 100 lbs in weight and often half that as they will be Roe deer and Muntjac. I have never tried any barnes bullets and doubt I will as I don't see the need for them in my hunting. So far the 100 Grain Partritions are not accurate enough for hunting giving 3 shot groups of over 4". I didn't realise they were Partitions until I got home.

I don't want badly blood shot meat.

deltecs · « **Reply #16 on:** April 15, 2008, 01:09:53 PM »

Quote from: Brithunter on April 15, 2008, 12:46:05 PM

Thank you for your comments however we must bear in mind that most of the deer I would be shooting will be under 100 lbs in weight and often half that as they will be Roe deer and Muntjac. I have never tried any barnes bullets and doubt I will as I don't see the need for them in my hunting. So far the 100 Grain Partritions are not accurate enough for hunting giving 3 shot groups of over 4". I didn't realise they were Partitions until I got home.

I don't want badly blood shot meat.

Speer makes some 80 SP flat base and 85 SPBT bullets that should work fine, if they meet your accuracy requirements. I use 100 gr Sierra gamekings for taking Blacktails here. Most of them field dress around 90-110 lbs average, however, I have shot some 200 pounders. Rare, but one can run across a big one.

Brithunter · « **Reply #17 on:** April 15, 2008, 10:38:10 PM »

Thank you for that, so far I have been trying these:-

85 grain Speer
87 grain HPBT Hornady
90 grain Nosler ballistic tip
95 grain Hornady SST
100 Grain Hornady SP
100 Grain Nosler Partition

However I could not get much in the way of consistency, 1st because of the failing bedding then due to a brand new faulty scope. Am now waitng a replacement scope so I can continue testing. The 90 grain Nosler ballitic Tip looks promising as does the 95 grain SST. Picked up a new box of Hornady 100 grain Spire Points on Sunday as I only had one bullet left in the old box.

As for our Deer as I hunt mainly Roe and Muntjac which probably weigh about he same a large Coyote (Roe go up to 60lbs and Muntjac around 30lbs in weight) premium bullets are not called for and I am also loading in the low to medium range as let's face I don't need full throttle loads for these.

Old English · « **Reply #18 on:** April 16, 2008, 01:23:00 AM »

Can y'all get Sierra 85gr in Limeyland? They work great in a 243, accurate and effective on game. Probably competitively priced as well. I see no reason why they wouldn't work as effectively in the 6mm Rem.

Brithunter · « **Reply #19 on:** April 16, 2008, 07:20:24 AM »

Probably but Sierra are not my first choice for any bullet.

rickt300 · « **Reply #20 on:** April 17, 2008, 05:29:49 AM »

My 6MM Remington is a M98 sporter with a 26 inch Douglas barrel. This barrel has a very light contour but seems to shoot everything reasonably well and the 95 grain Ballistic Tips outstandingly well. Bullets I have used on deer include the 80 gr. Remington PSP, The 100 gr. Hornady BTSP, the 100 gr. Corelokt, the Speer 105 gr. Hotcor spitzer and my favorite the 95 gr. BT. I have gotten exits with at least half the deer hit with these bullets but the good thing is no deer hit with this rifle has gone over 30 yards and most go right down. I have taken a few Mule der with this rifle but it mostly has done duty as a whitetail rifle in Texas. Best powders have been H414, AA4350, H4831 and Reloder 22. I'd have to say my second favorite bullet would be the 100 gr. Corelokt and have used this bullet more than any other both in factory loads and reloads.

huntswithdogs · « **Reply #21 on:** April 19, 2008, 05:34:03 AM »

Brit,
Before giving up on the Partitions, try loading some with either H414 or H4831. See if your groups don't come together just a little better. Your loads in the mid ranges may not be stabilizing the buttlets properly.

HWD

Brithunter · « **Reply #22 on:** April 19, 2008, 10:34:46 PM »

Well so far I have tried them with IMR 4831 and Reloader 19 and for some reason it does not put them in groups under about 3" at 82 yards. Once I get everything else sorted and consistent groups with at least two other bullets I will come back to the partitions.

Dave in WV · « **Reply #23 on:** April 20, 2008, 04:56:43 AM »

Brithunter, you may want to try H4350 or IMR4350. My old Lyman's reloading manual lists 40gr of IMR4350 potentially the most accurate with 87gr bullets. the 4350 powders may be the best all around powders for 85gr and heavier bullets . The Hornady 87gr flat base bullets are made for deer.

rickt300 · « **Reply #24 on:** April 20, 2008, 05:00:37 AM »

3 inches at 82 yards! I have never had a rifle shoot that poorly with any load. There is a real problem there that playing with loads probably won't fix.

Brithunter · « **Reply #25 on:** April 20, 2008, 03:02:55 PM »

Hmm well this statement sounds to be like your experience is limited:-

Quote from: rickt300 on April 20, 2008, 05:00:37 AM

3 inches at 82 yards! I have never had a rifle shoot that poorly with any load. There is a real problem there that playing with loads probably won't fix.

As I also have a bolt action 30-30 rifle that gave that very poor accuracy with some Winchester factory 150 grain ammo yet shoots well under 1" with handloads. Interestingly it's only the Nosler Partition that won't shoot into at least a usable groups. Didn't get the chance to shoot today so unless I get onto the back field then it will have to wait until next week.

Talking about very poor accuracy the local shop used to sell a few Remington 700's but they won't stock them any more after a customer ordered a Varnint synthetic then brought it back because it would not shoot. So they tested it with several different brands of 223 ammo and found out he was right so they sent it back and duely recieved a new rifle from the importers however that too was a lemon. Colin told me that they could not keep the shots on an A4 piece of paper at 70 paces !!!!!!!!! So they sent all the Remingtons back and won't stock nor order them any more.

It's no loss if it will not shoot the partitions after all I don't need them as the Hornady 100 grain Spire Points or 87 grain BTHP's will do what I want.

coyotejoe · « **Reply #26 on:** May 09, 2008, 04:58:22 AM »

I can't comment on the 87 gr. BTHP because I just avoid hollow points in game rifles but I've had good results on several deer much larger than your Roe deer with the Hornady 87 grain SP, that is first bullet I tried in the .243 and I just never found any need to try others. That is the bullet I am now using in low recoil loads for the wife's Super Lite handi-rifle with the velocity reduced to about 2800 fps, but she hasn't shot any game with it and probably won't, she just likes to go along and that is fine by me.

chutesnreloads · « **Reply #27 on:** May 09, 2008, 02:21:18 PM »

Interesting...The Hornady 87 gr.sp was what I ended up going with in a super lite .243 Handi too.Decent groups...easy to pull from behind the seat of the truck...and this bullet should be a fair "do everything" bullet.Maybe not perfect for anything but adequate for everything it'll come across.

varmintman · « **Reply #28 on:** May 09, 2008, 03:02:08 PM »

Hi, sorry I haven't got back but I moved from the hay fields to the state forest then my pc went to unusable so I bought a new one and am back on line. With all the trees around I don't shot as much as I used to do because I don't have the long range. Have been thinking about coyote hunting in fire lanes and some clear cuts, still have alot of woodchuck loads. Nice to talk to you. Thank you for all the replies on the 6mm remington.

rickt300 · « **Reply #29 on:** May 10, 2008, 07:19:10 AM »

My experience is definitly limited when it comes to bolt rifles that will do no better than 3 inches at 82 yards. All my lever rifles will beat that, along with my muzzleloaders and my slug gun. I would take the rifle apart, check the bedding, have the bore checked with a bore scope, find out what twist it has and just because have it recrowned. If all this fails to improve groups than rebarreling would me my next step. This of course being done after you get a reliable scope on it.