Set trigger click

[ed1921]

I have a Hawken rifle i got from Cabela's & made by Investarm I think. A nicely made Italian rifle for the price that is fairly accurate with a round ball out to 100 yards.
The set trigger really does a job on the trigger pull when set. Crisp & light. Unset the trigger is heavy with a hitch & a lot of creep.
My question is the click of the set trigger likely to spook a deer at say 50 yards or less? You can't ease it off like most safeties. Just pull to set . It has a healthy click.

[quickdtoo]

If you do it timely after you're already in shooting position, the click will be the last thing they ever hear!!

Tim

[flintlock]

I have never had a problem...With a deer at 25 yards or so I don't use the set trigger, at 50, I have never had them hear it...

[Charles/NM]

I uaed to have that problem with my T/C Hawken when it was new but after shooting it for 30 years the unset trigger has gotten so light from use I don't use the set anymore. Years ago I asked the same question on the old Shooter's Talk forum and was told to hold the hammer back past full cock, set the trigger and then ease the hammer down to catch the sear. I don't personally think that's a safe practice and don't do it  You might try that with your rifle and see what happens.

[quickdtoo]

My huntin partner missed a shot opportunity on an elk while trying the pulled back hammer trick, it works but takes a little more time, by the time he made the silent set, the elk was gone. Carrying a TC Hawken, he had a close head shot on a cow over a small slash pile in a clear cut, he knows now that if he just set the trigger and made the shot, we would have been packing elk, but it slipped away without a shot made.

Tim

[RemingtonMagnum]

The Hammer and firing system has nothing to do with the trigger other than the instant they come in contact. The hammer has nothing to do with the set trigger again other than the instant the make contact and is immediately released. The only thing a hammer pull back can accomplish is quieting echo.

The trigger actuator is only in contact with the Hammer Sear for a split second and the sear releases the ratch actuating the hammer and boom. On most of the rifles I have used for example the T/C Renegade etc.

Don Jackson Remington Magnum/Ultramag

[ed1921]

I tried holding the hammer back, then pulling the set trigger, but it doesn't help.
It sounds like the answer is aim, set, shoot & wait for the smoke to clear.
If close enough, the crappy trigger without the set shouldn't make much difference.
I guess I just need to try it out.

[simonkenton]

It has been my experience that a deer needs two alarms from the hunter to run.
If he sees you move your hand, he is on alert, and will look at you.
If he is on alert, and hears your trigger click, he will run.
If he smells you, he will go on alert, and look at you.
If he is on "smell alert", and  sees you move your hand, or hears your trigger click, he will run.
If he is not on alert, and hears your trigger click, he will look at you.
The next thing he will see will be the cloud of blue smoke from your muzzle.

[Charles/NM]

The Hammer and firing system has nothing to do with the trigger other than the instant they come in contact. The hammer has nothing to do with the set trigger again other than the instant the make contact and is immediately released. The only thing a hammer pull back can accomplish is quieting echo.

The trigger actuator is only in contact with the Hammer Sear for a split second and the sear releases the ratch actuating the hammer and boom. On most of the rifles I have used for example the T/C Renegade etc.

Don Jackson Remington Magnum/Ultramag

You're absolutly right. There is no contact between the trigger mechanism and the hammer action until the trigger is pulled.

[Mack in N.C.]

i have a renegade with a set trigger.. i dont use it hunting(set trigger)  i have it at half cock and then i put pressure on the trigger and pull the hammer back, ease off the trigger and let the hammer foward under thumb pressure until it catches ...no click...never had a problem......takes me a milisecond.......mack

[Mack in N.C.]

i forgot to add this since your question was about the set trigger....i dont use the set trigger because of my 1 bad experiance with it.......i set it then barely touched (accidently) it as i had it l on the deers spine and was lowereing sights to the heart area...gun went boom and i shot just over the back ...my stupid mistake but i have shot 25-30 deer witht this gun and thats the only miss so far, though that was 1 of the first deer to get in my renegades sights......even though i dont use the set trigger mine makes a  loud click going from 1/2 coc....to full cock so i use the method in the previous post....mack

[sharps4590]

I shot a smallish 10 pointer a week ago today at 30 yards with my Jack Garner, 54 cal., full stock Leman.  I was still hunting and he walked within 20 feet of me.  When he got to where I could move I raised the rifle, put the sights on him, cocked the hammer, set the trigger, aimed and fired.  He never changed his attitude,  gait or acted as if he knew I was within 10 miles of him.  I've never had a deer spook because of setting the trigger, and I ALWAYS use the set trigger.  Our muzzleloading season opens tomorrow and now that I've used the two words always and never both will probably happen tomorrow....hehe.

simonkenton offered some good information.  I concur with his observations.

Vic

[RemingtonMagnum]

The Hammer and firing system has nothing to do with the trigger other than the instant they come in contact. The hammer has nothing to do with the set trigger again other than the instant the make contact and is immediately released. The only thing a hammer pull back can accomplish is quieting echo.

The trigger actuator is only in contact with the Hammer Sear for a split second and the sear releases the ratch actuating the hammer and boom. On most of the rifles I have used for example the T/C Renegade etc.

Don Jackson Remington Magnum/Ultramag

You're absolutly right. There is no contact between the trigger mechanism and the hammer action until the trigger is pulled.

Some of the inexpensive CVA rifles (single trigger) have springs that actually hold the trigger against the sear point.