Yeah I was using the 250 grain Shockwaves and 100 grains (2 pellets) of Triple 7. Was planning on using 150 grains of Triple 7 but a shortage of cash and pellets onhand at time of sight in decided for me. But, 2 pellets and a 250 gr. Shockwave kills em just as dead...I'll give up the extra range that third pellet gives me this year.