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Offline Tschreiber

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2 questions about win 94's
« on: December 05, 2006, 07:05:58 AM »
hi! i have an 80's vintage 30-30 trapper/carbine that has been abused by the p.o. lots of rust and some pitting. i'd like to refinish at home, make it my winter project, but i keep hearing that i shouldn't touch it. will this be a collector some day? also, the local shop has a 1968 in 32 win for $250. it's about 85%. i'd be buying this as a shooter, not a wall hanger. i'd like to refinish the stock, the blueing is fair. i offered them $200, and i'm waiting to hear back from them. is $200 a fair price? will the 32 be collectable? if i don't buy or fix these guns up, i'm looking for a marlin in 30-30 or 35rem. at heart i'm a hunter, not a collector. any help will be appreciated. thanks!

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Re: 2 questions about win 94's
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2006, 04:54:11 PM »
i would definately buy them. winchester has stopped production on their lever guns altogether. even if they never reach "collector" status, they're fine shooting rifles, and it may be hard to find them in the near future.

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Re: 2 questions about win 94's
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2006, 05:07:08 PM »
I dont worry to much about the affect on the value by refinishing. My main purpose of refinishing is to protect the metal and/or wood.

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Re: 2 questions about win 94's
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2006, 05:19:54 PM »
While the value will increase some what, Winchester did make literally millions of them. In 200 years they could make it onto antiques road show. My new (pre 64) .32 Spl will be here tommorrow and I plan to use it. though with cast bullets (because I like to make my own bullets).  Take good care of them and use them and enjoy them, you don't really think they will bury them with you do you?
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Re: 2 questions about win 94's
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2006, 05:24:52 AM »
I am hearing through the grape vine that another manufacturer is interested
in producing the 94 again. I doubt it will stay "Unproduced"  for very long.
I would refinish it and reblue it. I just aquired an Angle eject 94 that is about to be renovated.
I am going to completely rework it, even shortened the Tube Mag for three rounds.
(Just looks neat to me with the short magazine). I may rechamber it for .30-30 Ackley Improved
also. I have not done checkering and engraving for a Long, Long time, but I may do it on this one.
I want a one of a kind rifle to draw funny looks at the range with folks wondering what it is.
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Offline Drifter Mike

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Re: 2 questions about win 94's
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2006, 08:07:06 AM »
Browning is coming out with the 94. It will be made in Japan
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Re: 2 questions about win 94's
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2006, 08:26:14 AM »
Browning is coming out with the 94. It will be made in Japan

Where did you get this piece of news?
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Re: 2 questions about win 94's
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2006, 09:17:31 AM »
From a reliable source. One of the ammo manufactures are making several cal. for testing. Browning being purchaser.
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Re: 2 questions about win 94's
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2006, 11:19:57 AM »
If you have a reliable source quote them.  Until then it is just a rumor.
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Re: 2 questions about win 94's
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2006, 12:46:59 PM »
Just wait until the SHOT SHOW. Browning will unveil then at that time
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Re: 2 questions about win 94's
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2006, 12:37:48 AM »
Haven't heard what will be built, or where, but as most of the Browning rifles are made in Japan, then Japan is certainly a possibility.

http://winchester.com/news/newsview.aspx?storyid=172

Winchester and Browning Enter Firearms License Agreement
 
8/15/2006

East Alton, IL, August 15, 2006 --Winchester announced today that it has entered into a long-term license agreement with Browning for the manufacture and distribution of Winchester brand rifles and shotguns.

 
“With this new agreement, Winchester is confident that Browning will produce innovative firearms worthy of the Winchester name, continuing a tradition that people around the world associate with the Winchester brand,” stated Richard Hammett, President Winchester Ammunition.  “We are proud of our heritage as The Gun That Won the West and consider this arrangement as entering a new era for the legendary Winchester firearms brand.”

Charles Guevremont, President of Browning is equally optimistic and excited about the opportunity to continue the production and distribution of Winchester firearms.  “We are more committed today than ever before to the development of exciting new Winchester firearms designs,” said Guevremont.  “We will continually strive to build the quality products that generations of loyal Winchester customers have come to expect and will be proud to own and use for decades to come.”


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Re: 2 questions about win 94's
« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2006, 05:13:53 AM »
I heard Browning Also, and Uberti. I am sure both will be twice the cost of a Winchester !

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Re: 2 questions about win 94's
« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2006, 09:42:13 AM »
The Model 70 as well as the 1300 shotgun will also come back. The 1300 will be Japan built but unsure where the 70 will be built, most likley F N
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Re: 2 questions about win 94's
« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2006, 04:12:01 AM »
From a reliable source. One of the ammo manufactures are making several cal. for testing. Browning being purchaser.

What calibers are they testing for the new Browning Model 94
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Re: 2 questions about win 94's
« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2006, 04:46:36 PM »
25/35.30/30, 32 spl, 32/40 and 38/55 also the 45LC from what I have been told. Maybe later the 44 mag and 357mag. Although the pistol cals may be in the 92 and not the 94 have not heard for sure
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Re: 2 questions about win 94's
« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2006, 05:14:44 PM »
25/35.30/30, 32 spl, 32/40 and 38/55 also the 45LC from what I have been told. Maybe later the 44 mag and 357mag. Although the pistol cals may be in the 92 and not the 94 have not heard for sure
 Mike

I can see the 30/30 , the 38-55 and even the 32 Winchester Special. But the rest of the calibers don't see like they will sell well.
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Re: 2 questions about win 94's
« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2006, 07:42:58 AM »
Try and buy a 25/35 rifle or carbine. Just try to get one of the last 25/35's Winchester built before closing. They all bring substantially more than a 30/30, 32 spl or 38/55. I think with the cowboy action sport the 25/35 will be good seller.
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Re: 2 questions about win 94's
« Reply #17 on: December 17, 2006, 05:23:03 PM »
While some people enjoy collecting post 64 Winchester94's they will probably not gain in value and when any collectible is tinkered with (refinished) it loses most of its collectibility.  Among collectors, 32 win. sp is the least desireable cartridge.  Any cartridge but 32 and 30-30 is very collectible.  Original production rifles in the rare cartr. ceased decades ago and are very high priced today.
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