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Offline snappy

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223 for deer
« on: December 07, 2006, 09:50:48 AM »
Has anyone used 223 for deer. At present it is my only  barrel. Shot
 placement would be of major importance. Any feed back would certainly be appreciated.

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Re: 223 for deer
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2006, 10:50:00 AM »
I've shot a handful of Oregon Blacktail deer with my Kimber 84. Bang... flop with 60 gr. Noslers. The furthest one has traveled was about 40 yards when I didn't get the placement squarely in the lungs.  With a bolt gun you have an oppertunity for quick follow-up shot if needed, and so I think that lacking this oppertunity I would suggest going with something a bit bigger for the hunt.

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Re: 223 for deer
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2006, 10:53:13 AM »
I know many people use .22 centerfires for deer, but I think they are light.  Also, isn't the twist in T/C barrels too slow to stabilize heavier bullets?  Especially in the smaller cases like .223?

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Re: 223 for deer
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2006, 05:29:32 PM »
.223 is not allowed in my state (our deer are big), so that may affect my thinking.

My .223 does not shoot anything over 50 grains real well. Laws aside, I think this caliber is light for deer, and many of the rounds available are varmit rounds which will not expand right for a deer size critter. I want a clean kill.

Let's face it you need a new barrel. You know you want it. Contenders are all about buying barrels. I have a few and want more (but I am not rich, so I have to save my pennies). My favorite for deer is the 7-30. Others will give you other choices. It is fun to pick out the perfect choice for you.

good luck.

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Re: 223 for deer
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2006, 06:07:36 PM »
I would agree with the others in that I too feel the .223, especially out of a Handgun Length barrel is marginal at best for Deer sized critters. Shop around on the various classifieds and or ebay to get a more suitable cartridge. In addition as has been stated the .223 is not legal to harvest deer in many states.

Now if you would have asked "Can a .223 14" Contender KILL a Deer", I would have to answer YES. Here's the situation. A buddy and I were done Deer Hunting (all of our tags were filled), and we were heading out for an afternoon of predator calling. My buddy had a Smith & Wesson Model 1500 Rifle in .223 Remington and I had a Super 14 T/C Contender in .223 Remington. As we were driving down the road enroute to our hunting spot a couple of hunters flagged us down.

Seems these guys had wounded a nice 4x4 Whitetail Buck and were unable to finish it off as they were now out of ammo. The Buck was standing in a small patch of weeds and looking sick but still on it's feet. These guys asked if we had a gun and could we shoot their buck to finish it off.

Well I said YEP WE CAN, and I got out of the pickup with my Super 14 .223 Contender. I flipped the legs of the bipod down and rested the Contender on the hood of my buddies pickup. I could hear the guys questioning my buddy, "He isn't going to try to shoot our Buck with THAT THING is he".

About that time I had the crosshairs of the 7x Burris Handgun Scope centered on the Bucks Chest as it faced me. I continued pressure on the 2 pound trigger and at the shot the Buck sat on it's rump, stayed in that position for a second or two and simply fell over. Those two guys were amazed, and then confessed that they had each shot 5 rounds at the Buck after they had wounded it and never hit it.

As luck would have it these guys didn't have a knife either and we had to field dress the Buck for them. As I said this was lucky as I was able to recover my bullet. Seems I had hit slightly to the left of the brest bone and the bullet traveled through the Buck lengthwise and came to rest in front of the left hip bone in a picture book perfect mushroom. I was totally amazed at the bullet performance, eepecially since I was shooting Black Hills Shooters Ammo loaded with 55gr. Hornady SX Bullets.

This was about a 100 yard shot, this Contender was super accurate with that ammo, I had a perfect rest and total confidence in how I could place the bullet. Could I have done the same under a HUNTING CONDITION, well I wouldn't have tried it to find out.

I think the .223 in a Contender Handgun is a great cartridge when used for what it was intended to be used for. I have shot literally thousands of rounds of various .223 Ammo through Contender Handguns over the years in the Prairie Dog Towns of my native South Dakota. For this purpose, and even for Coyotes the .223 is one of my favorite Handgun Cartridges, but for Whitetail Deer or Pronghorns I much prefer something with a little more horsepower.

So if you want to know if your .223 will KILL A DEER I would have to answer YES under ideal circumstances. If you are asking is the .223 Remington in a Contender a Deer Hunting Cartridge I would have to answer NO.

Please don't take offense, but that is my experience and feelings on the matter.There are a lot of much better cartridges chambered in the Contender for the Hunting of Whitetail Deer.

Larry
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Re: 223 for deer
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2006, 02:25:26 PM »
Thank you for your input. Wife didn't totally believe me but you confirmed my thoughts. Since CHRISTmas is just down the road I am hoping for a long narrow package under the tree.

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Re: 223 for deer
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2006, 07:00:27 PM »
Since Christmas is just down the road I am hoping for a long narrow package under the tree.

LOL, me too. But I am betting if I am going to get a 15" long package under the Tree I will probably have to buy it myself (which is not a bad idea either).

Good luck

Larry
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