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White Oak Plantation Handgun Hunt #XVI report
« on: December 11, 2006, 11:06:12 AM »
OK guys I'm back from the sixteenth annual handgun hunt at White Oak Plantation. Now as it turned out I wasn't able to get myself back. Matt and my oldest son Bob had to come down and bring me back last night. more on that later.

The hunt was held at White Oak Plantation near Tuskegee in Macon County Alabama December 8-11. This is a hunt where several manufacturers invite a few magazine writers to come down and several hunters get to join in each year for a get together for deer hunting and fellowship. The manufacturer's represented this year (I hope I don't leave out any) were:

Freedom Arms, Thompson Center, Mag-na-port, Winchester ammunition, Recon and Sure Fire.

Bob Baker of Freedom Arms was there and gave away a beautiful FA83 in .50 Wyoming that had been further enhanced by Mag-na-port and was scoped with a Bushnell 2-6 Elite donated by Bushnell.

TC was represented by Ernie French as well as Ken French and his charming wife Pam. They donated an stainless Encore handgun in 7-08 with fluted, some custom scroll work and a TC scope.

Kenny Kelly of Mag-na-port was there with a Ruger Super Black Hawk given the full Predator Deluxe customization package plus a few other options that made it special for this hunt. This one was won by me.

Dick Williams represented Sure Fire and gave away a new camo version of their flashlight to all participants.

Mickey Stokes represented Recon Outdoors.



The event began with most of us arriving Friday morning. After getting checked in and getting our room assignments we met out front and began getting acquainted. Then it was off to the range to check the zero on our guns and in a few cases to sight in guns that were to be used for the hunt.

Our first hunt was the afternoon of December 8. I was put in a shooting house over looking a green field. I hear some shooting going on around me at various times. We had spooked off a young deer that was feeding in the field when we arrived. About 4:45 PM with darkness closing in fast a doe fed out into the field. I watched her awhile to be REAL sure it was in fact a doe. NOTE: shooting a button buck thinking it a doe carries a $200 fine and shooting a buck with less than 8 points or less than 16" spread carries a $500 fine at White Oak so you wanna be REAL sure what you're shooting when you pull the trigger. Having satisfied myself it was definitely a legal doe I took the shot at 50 yards using a SS G2 frame mounted with a 7-30 Waters barrel. The shot was taken as the doe fed directly toward me thru the neck into the chest. She folded to the shot and never even quivered.

That evening I think a total of three does were taken by folks on our hunt and one was wounded and not found. It was later determined the shot had gone low as white hair and a bit of tallow was found but little blood. The decision was made that deer wouldn't die of its wounds.

Saturday morning I was taken to a ground blind over looking a rather large field with a pond behind me a couple hundred yards. I did see a couple of does cross the field at least 300-400 yards out from me but saw nothing more. OK I did see some ducks that flew down to the pond. I belive I recall one doe was shot by one of the hunters during this morning session. Some folks saw deer but over all it was agreed this was a really slow session.

Saturday afternoon again saw me in an elevated shooting house. This time I was right off the edge of a nice pond and the green field was a huge one. I saw only one deer and while I was quite sure it was a legal doe the light was fading and it was 150 yards away. The shot was broadside and wouldn't have been that difficult but the thought of the fines IF it wasn't a doe kept me from shooting.

Dan Johnson a semi regular poster here at GBO and staff writer for Petersen's magazines shot a doe that evening at a lazered 289 yards using a G2 with 6.8 Remington using a V-Max bullet. They weren't able to locate it in the evening but went back next morning and found it with no trouble. I think at least one other was shot that evening and not recovered even after a follow up the next morning.

Sunday morning I was again in a elevated shooting house. This time I had low lying thick woods behind me that reminded me of land near a pond even tho I saw noting to indicate such a pond was back there. Out to my front, left and right were long narrow shooting lanes. I saw a deer early on the lane to my left coming right toward me. I never really saw antlers on the head but am almost certain this was a yearling spike, the kind that costs you $500 if you mistake it for a doe. Before it came close enough to be 100% certain in the early morning low light it moved to its right and into the woods. It then spooked at something and ran across that shooting lane back into woods and blew at me awhile. IT then cross the lane in front of me and then the one to my right. I never did seen any antlers on the head but am still convinced it was a yound spike.

I later saw two more deer cross my lane to my right at about 100 yards. The first was across too fast for me to see what it was for sure but both appeared to be fawns of the year. The second one I was able to see better and I'm sure it was a button buck aka $200 fine. I didn't shoot at any of the three.


Now comes the bad part of the hunt I said I'd get back to later.

The morning had been a fairly mild one compared to the much colder previous mornings. I had too many clothes on really. When I got into the truck for the ride back to the lodge I didn't remove them at first as it was expected to be a short ride. It turned out to be a LOT longer than expected as we had to get three other hunters who had been placed much further from the lodge than I was.

I got over heated and began to get really sick. The world was spinning on me and my head was throbbing. It was one of the worst dizzy spells I've ever had. It was BAD. Back at the lodge they had to almost tote me to the room. I got my boots off with help from Brian who'd been our guide for the morning and laid down. A couple hours later I was able to get up long enough to get to my medications for the condition and laid back down. I wasn't able to get up until about 6:00 PM. I had asked them to contact Matt to tell him I needed help getting home.

So when I woke about 6:00 PM I found that Matt and my oldest son Bob were on their way down to get me. Bob had to go into work last night so he drove straight on to work from there. Matt drove my truck with me in the passenger seat and then unloaded all my gear when we got here. He then had to take it to his house as I was in no shape to drive it back from there.

My day ended then a bit before midnight last night when I finally got in my own bed, still a bit woozy but a lot better than I had been. I slept until noon today and am still a bit unsteady even today.


I did manage to make it down to the meeting hall last evening for the big give away of prizes. I was very unsteady and my head throbbed but I was able to sit thru it.

The prizes were give out by first having one of the industry reps or a magazine writer draw a name from the hat. Only us hunters had names in the hat. I think there were nine of us but am a bit uncertain as I said I was really woozy. My name was drawn third from last and was pulled out by magazine writer and long time GBO member Dan Johnson. I then was allowed to draw a number from yet another hat and I drew out the number 3. We then went over to the prizes to see what we'd won. Natually all hunters won prizes but there were only three BIG ones.

I woke a Ruger Super Blackhawk given the full Mag-na-port Pedator Deluxe package plus a few extras just for this hunt. It will be shipped out to my locall FFL guy when Kenny Kelly gets it back home since I had not made any arrangements in advance to have an FFL there on file in advance. I'll get photos of it on here once it makes it's way to me.

A good time was had by all present. I got to meet both Bob Baker of Freedom Arms and Dan Johnson of Petersen's magazines. These are folks I've corresponded with via phone and the internet for years but had never before met in person.





List of names of the folks at the hunt curtesy of John Anderson Editor of Varmint Hunter Magazine.

John Anderson
Bob Baker
Fred Burson
Mark Chesnut
John Cotter
Ernie French
Ken and Pam French
Bill Graham
Dan Johnson
Kenny Kelly
Patrick Kyle
Joe La Rock
Michael Mazzatta
Fred Ray
Dave Robinson
Russell Smith
Mickey Stokes
Dick Williams


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Re: White Oak Plantation Handgun Hunt #XVI report
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2006, 02:56:22 PM »
Sounds like a really good time. I would like to go on a hunt like this some day. Were there any big bucks shot or seen?

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Re: White Oak Plantation Handgun Hunt #XVI report
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2006, 06:12:00 PM »
Nope. No bucks seen or shot on this hunt. I think at most of them in the past 2-3 have been taken but this time it seemed all that were seen were does or yound bucks that would have cost you an extra $500 if you dropped the hammer. The rut there is in January.


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Re: White Oak Plantation Handgun Hunt #XVI report
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2006, 03:11:03 AM »
Bill, glad to hear that all ended well. Sorry to hear of your health problems during the hunt, hate it when that happens. Having had four by-passes and a caroted artery surgery, in a two month period, I know the problems of getting older. My hunting days are limited, now. Stay well and may God watch over you and your health.
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Re: White Oak Plantation Handgun Hunt #XVI report
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2006, 11:30:34 AM »
Bill,

does your health condition call for you to speak up when you are being taxed beyond your constitutions limits?

a little inconvenience of your co-conspirators on a hunting trip should not be a major problem for them to endure.

just my two cents.

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Re: White Oak Plantation Handgun Hunt #XVI report
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2006, 01:28:38 PM »
I'm glad you are feeling better, Bill. It was a pleasure meeting you in person and I'm glad you won the Ruger. Hope to see a range report soon.

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« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2006, 01:52:17 PM »
Bill - Wow!  Congradulations on such a great prize.  Gonna let us know how she shoots?????  Mikey.

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Re: White Oak Plantation Handgun Hunt #XVI report
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2006, 02:40:15 PM »
Im glad you won such a nice prize pal. it couldnt have been given to a nicer guy! Hope you get healed up soon so you can take it out and shoot the crap out of it!
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Re: White Oak Plantation Handgun Hunt #XVI report
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2006, 05:56:45 PM »
Bill,

does your health condition call for you to speak up when you are being taxed beyond your constitutions limits?

a little inconvenience of your co-conspirators on a hunting trip should not be a major problem for them to endure.

just my two cents.

take care,

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Yes, my health definitely dictates what I can and cannot do. Everyone was very accomodating to me in that regard on this trip. I told them I couldn't go into ladder stands or any type of climbing or fixed stand. They put me in shooting houses at every sitting. One was ground level and all the rest had stairs to walk up with a hand rail for me to hold onto. I told them I wasn't able to walk very far and the longest walk to a stand was 25 yards and the shortest was maybe three steps.

At the time I had the dizzy spell I felt so nauseated I began to wish I could die just to get it over with. The guys stopped the guide and they moved me up front for less bouncing and where the cool air could flow on me to help cool me back down. But at that point we were a good ways from the lodge and had to drive to get there, not much could be done about that. They helped me to the room once we got back to the lodge and called Matt to let him know I needed him to come bring me back home as I wasn't gonna be able to get myself back.


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Re: White Oak Plantation Handgun Hunt #XVI report
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2006, 02:40:46 AM »
Oh man...I am the one who sold Graybeard the hunt and I am sure glad he is feeling better.

Bill,

I hope you enjoyed yourself despite the health issues.  I am so sorry that happened.  I was glad to hear you won something and hope that the prize was still somewhat of a thrill at the time. 

Feel better soon.

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Re: White Oak Plantation Handgun Hunt #XVI report
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2006, 06:20:32 AM »
Yup Barry I enjoyed it over all. Up until the dizzy spell hit me about 10:30 AM on Sunday all had gone well. From that point on things weren't well at all but it's not like this doesn't happen to me from time to time anyway. This was perhaps the worst one to hit me so far but I've had several pretty close to the intensity of this one but none that lasted quite so long.

At the prize give away I was more or less in a daze and not much more than barely aware of what was going on around me. I was very unsteady on my feet and for sure not able to fully enjoy the time.

Winning such a prize really was a shock to me as prior to that the ONLY thing I'd ever won in a pure luck situation was 500 S&H Green Stamps from a laundry about 30 years ago.

The dizziness did cost me the afternoon hunt on Sunday but really I had pretty well decided to sleep in late on Monday and then drive on back so I can't say it cost me that hunt as I'd likely not have gone out anyway. It did force Matt and my oldest son Bob to have to come down to get me but it was less than a 3 hour drive for them so no big deal really.

I just have a lot of health issues and have to deal with them daily.


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« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2006, 06:50:42 AM »
best of luck to you sir....

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« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2006, 01:19:10 PM »
Bill, I'm glad you are feeling better..take care of yourself..we'd like to have you around a few more years at the least!! HA..got you on my prayer list..Its the most I could do for you. ;)
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Re: White Oak Plantation Handgun Hunt #XVI report
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2006, 05:55:53 PM »
Sir, it is unfortunate that you became sick, but is good to hear that you are better now. I am glad that you had some enjoyable hunts before this occured. I had a bug for a couple of days & it seems at those times we think about how great it is when we feel good.
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« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2006, 01:48:47 PM »
Thats a shame you got sick  :(but, it could've been worse.As long as you enjoyed it up to that point atleast.Now G.B. I know you don't like Rugers so just send it to me.LOL. ;D
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« Reply #15 on: December 26, 2006, 01:46:55 PM »
Honestly G.B. get well soon. ;)
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Re: White Oak Plantation Handgun Hunt #XVI report
« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2007, 11:28:54 AM »
Not the best pictures but here is the revolver I won.





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« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2007, 12:46:10 PM »
Congratulations. Nice looking pistol.
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« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2007, 06:30:55 PM »
The photos really don't do it justice, the focus is off. The camera had auto focus and it looks like the box not the gun is where it focused. I am gonna try to do better later when we have better weather. The day I did that it was seriously cold and windy. I didn't stay out any longer than needed.


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« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2007, 02:52:09 AM »
Bill, you were obviously not kidding when in an e-mail to me several months ago you responded to a comment that I had made regarding the 20+ medications that I had to take several times daily.  Your comment was to the effect that my RX regime appeared to mimic the amount of medications that you too had to consume daily.  I earnestly hope that your health improves as time goes by.  As you know a positive attitude is essential to self-healing, while this is generally easier said then done, a good attitude also makes life more enjoyable.  Bill, truly my best of thoughts and regards,

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« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2007, 03:52:16 AM »
Got a letter from the DEA telling me that I would have to register myself as a walking pharmacy, he,he,he.  I turn 60 in a few weeks and feel it every waking moment.  My health went down hill at age 50 with my first heart attack.  It has been going bad ever since. 

Bill, I hear your pain.  All we can do is savor every moment of life left and enjoy it to the best of our ability.  Stay strong pard.      ;)
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« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2007, 07:19:59 AM »
Geeze, I'm sixty three and have never had a major health problem.  I thank my lucky stars for that every day.  You guys take good care of yourselves and keep shoot'n!
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« Reply #22 on: February 28, 2007, 04:27:51 PM »
I've been one of those who have looked over my shoulder, health wise.  My dad died in his mid-50s and I've getting there fast.  I've spent more than I should on hunting trips and guns over the years.  I'm about through with my must do list, moose hunt in Alaska this fall probably the last big ticket hunt for me.  I just got my brown bear back a few days ago from a Spring bear hunt, so I have nothing to complain about.  I've got a little gray in my beard too, but hope the good Lord allows me to see the kids full grown and productive citizens.  Actually, I want to be able to embrasses them in from of the grandkids if they have any!  You are in my prayers too.  Someone said, "The prayers of the rightous man avails much."  Too bad I don't qualify.  :)

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« Reply #23 on: March 01, 2007, 02:31:34 AM »
I've been one of those who have looked over my shoulder, health wise.  My dad died in his mid-50s and I've getting there fast.  I've spent more than I should on hunting trips and guns over the years.  I'm about through with my must do list, moose hunt in Alaska this fall probably the last big ticket hunt for me.  I just got my brown bear back a few days ago from a Spring bear hunt, so I have nothing to complain about.  I've got a little gray in my beard too, but hope the good Lord allows me to see the kids full grown and productive citizens.  Actually, I want to be able to embrasses them in from of the grandkids if they have any!  You are in my prayers too.  Someone said, "The prayers of the rightous man avails much."  Too bad I don't qualify.  :)

I was a poster boy for health while I was in the Air force.  Did 26 years and retired to become a cop.  After five years on the job I had my first heart attack and been going down hill ever since.  It seems like everytime I turn around I got another problem.  Need a rotator cuff repair operation on the right shoulder.  Had the left done about three years back. 

As far as the hunts, I will try to make an elk hunt next year in Montana.  Maybe a caribou hunt in the future.  That is about it for me.  Not too keen on a hunt where the hunted is hunting me, he,he,he!!!  How big was that brown bear?  It should make a nice rug.

both my daughters have gone from the nest and are very successful.  I have one grand baby that I love and have fun playing with.  I spoil the hell out of her.  I can do that, I am grandpa!  She brings back many memories of my girls from days past.  Don't wish away your time, but savor every moment.    ;)

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« Reply #24 on: April 23, 2007, 04:19:51 AM »

Congrats on the nice new Ruger!  But, what are you going to do?!  I thought you didn't like Rugers!  ;D
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Re: White Oak Plantation Handgun Hunt #XVI report
« Reply #25 on: April 23, 2007, 10:20:05 AM »
I don't like Rugers. I'm gonna sell it as soon as I find someone interested enough to pay for it.


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« Reply #26 on: May 18, 2007, 08:07:05 PM »
what all was done to that weapon, it looks like a real sweet BH.  How little would you ask if someone was interested ?
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« Reply #27 on: May 19, 2007, 01:04:28 AM »
You can look on the Magnaport website to see what the Predator Conversion consists of. I honestly don't recall all of what was done to it. I've already sold it. I had hoped to get $1000 for it but ended up settling for $800 locally. Compared to what it would cost to buy a new gun and have the conversion done on it that was really a steal but I had no real cash invested in it other than the cost of the hunt which I paid without having any clue I'd win a gun so I guess I can't count that. I'm just not a Ruger person so decided not to keep it and to let someone with more appreciation for Rugers than me have it.


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« Reply #28 on: January 30, 2008, 04:26:51 AM »
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