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Offline Lazy K

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How much $$ to fix one up?
« on: December 11, 2006, 11:56:41 AM »
Found an older RWS Dianna Model 24 in a friend's garage.  It's probably been dry fired hundreds of times.  Does anyone know about how much it costs to have a new spring, etc. put in the gun and where is the best place to send?  I see the model 24 advertised for $150 so not sure if it's worth fixing up the old one or not??

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Re: How much $$ to fix one up?
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2006, 02:29:54 AM »
RWS should have a lifetime warranty, so it should be free. If you have to pay though, $50 ought to cover a new spring and seals.

Send All Repairs To:
RWS Warranty Repair Center
Umarex USA, Inc
6007 S 29th St
Ft Smith, AR 72908
Phone: 479-646-4210

Hope that helps.

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Re: How much $$ to fix one up?
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2006, 03:54:18 AM »
Thanks for this response and the p.m. (I can't figure out how to reply to a p.m. ? lol)  Anyway, now I have a new dilema. 

I worked on that gun last night.  Got some steel wool and some oil and got her looking presentable again.  Then I loaded it up and fired her a few times.  Now, it doesn't shoot as hard as my Quest, but it seemed like it shot hard enough to still be accurate?  I couldn't really tell because I removed the fixed sights and didn't have a scope to put on it.  But my question now is, shouldn't I maybe run a couple pellets through a chronograph and get an idea of what it's shooting?  Maybe it doesn't need a new spring?  I'll tell you one thing, I fell in love with that gun.  It cocks so easy and that trigger is so light and crisp.  That is a nice old gun!

What should an older, broken in, mod. 24 be shooting in feet per second?  They aren't all that fast brand new are they?  What kind of velocity do you need in a .177 to be accurate enough for leagues, which is about 30 ft. right?

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Re: How much $$ to fix one up?
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2006, 07:55:53 AM »
The factory rates them at 700 fps new. However, it's commonly accepted among airgunners that most factories "pad" those figures. So with light .177, I'd expect around 650 fps new.

For an older gun if you're getting over 600 fps, I'd be happy.

As for match shooting, if your are talking Olympic/International style, most of the rifles are low powered because they just punch paper. Remember also, that's a massive spring in there. The faster your gun shoots, the more stored energy the spring releases, and creates recoil. Where that really comes into play is with something called "lock time". Which is the amount of time it takes the pellet to exit the barrel. The harmonics created by the recoil can cause inaccuracy. That's because the airgun is moving, while the pellet is still in the barrel. As opposed to a firearm, where the bullets travels much faster (in general), and has already left the barrel before the gun recoils. So as you can see, it's a bit of a "catch-22". To cut down on "lock time", you need more velocity, but with a springer you get more recoil!

That's why, in my opinion, a springer shouldn't generate more than 14-16 fpe depending on caliber. Sorry to all the Patriot/Kodiak, and RWS 1350 owners out there.

In regards to accuracy, buy several different tins of pellets and see which one is the most accurate. Different guns like different pellets, even the same models. That's just like a .22 rimfire in that respect.

I got a little off track there, but I hope that helps.

John

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Re: How much $$ to fix one up?
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2006, 08:58:17 AM »
Yes, that helps alot.  I'm going after work to shoot it through a friends chronograph.  The only pellet I have to shoot out of it is the blue and red tin Crosman wadcutter.  It doesn't even list on that tin what weight that pellet is so I don't know if it's considered heavy or light.  But I'll post back tomorrow and let you all know what it shot and maybe you can help me decide whether or not she's worth fixing up.

Also, I checked the websites today and don't even see the model 24 available in .177 anymore.  They have it in .22 and rate it at 400 f.p.s.  I might be interested in a new one if you can still get it in .177

Dang, these air guns are addicting! lol

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Re: How much $$ to fix one up?
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2006, 05:53:31 PM »
I have a RWS 24 in .17 Cal.  I bought it new and clocked it several times.  With 7.9 grain cpls, it will do around 550 f/s.  I have not tried real light pellets because I am getting excellent results with the cpls.  I have seen a number of RWS 24s and have yet to see one that will do much over that.  I personally doubt that ANY RWS 24 will shoot over 600 f/s with 7.9 grain cpl pellets.  I believe the manufacturer (Diana) rates the gun at around 640 f/s and they use a light pellet to reach that velocity.  You can check this out on the Diana website.  The distributor (RWS) almost always rates these guns higher than they will actually shoot with pellets normally used.  It is a marketing ploy, and a bit dishonest IMHO.  RWS is not the only distribtor or dealer to use this tactic.

My guess is that your gun is shooting just fine.  If you can clock it, don't be disappointed if it shoots a little over 500 f/s.  That is plenty for a smooth shooting target gun.  Mine is VERY accurate and outshoots my R7 with regard to accuracy for up to about 30 yards.  I like it.  You may just have a gem there.  Put a decent scope on it and shoot it and enjoy it.  Be sure and get a good strong mount.  I prefer a one piece mount. The 24 is a fine, accurate shooter when set up properly with the right pellet.

Regards,

Jim 

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Re: How much $$ to fix one up?
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2006, 04:05:10 AM »
Dang.  Now I have another problem.  My buddy won't sell me the gun! lol  Now that I have it all cleaned up and he's seen how good it shoots he wants to keep it.  That sucks cause that gun would have laid in the garage for another ten years and not been shot if I hadn't taken it home.  Oh well, his gun, not mine.  I've checked everywhere to see if any of the dealers or distributors have one in stock and can't find one anywhere.  Some 22 cals available but no 177.  Can't even find a used one.  Now I'm bummed out.

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Re: How much $$ to fix one up?
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2006, 01:38:22 PM »
Get the .22 - it's a better hunting pellet (sorry all you .177 guys) and it's also great for plinking cans or whatever.  While it shoots slower then a .177 it has more energy and smacks harder.  You could probably hunt treerats, bunnies, and small pest birds to about 25 yards with one.  Get a reasonable priced fixed 4x or even a 3-9 varable scope for it and you'll never regret buying it.