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S&W Aquires Thompson/Center for $102 million
« on: December 18, 2006, 06:26:23 AM »
Smith & Wesson Acquires Thompson/Center Arms, Inc.

New Hampshire based company purchased for $102 million cash

By Press Release


Springfield, Massachusetts, December 18, 2006 -- Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (Nasdaq: SWHC), parent company of Smith & Wesson Corp., the legendary 154-year old company in the global business of safety, security, protection and sport, today announced that it has entered into a definitive agreement to acquire Thompson/Center Arms, Inc., a 40-year old, privately held, New Hampshire-based designer, manufacturer and marketer of premium hunting firearms, for $102 million in cash. The transaction is expected to close in the beginning of January 2007.



Thompson/Center Arms, headquartered in Rochester, New Hampshire, manufactures and distributes innovative firearms recognized by hunting enthusiasts for their precision, performance, craftsmanship, and reliability. Thompson/Center Arms occupies a leadership position within each of its core product categories of black powder firearms (or "muzzleloaders"), black powder accessories, and interchangeable firearm systems, as well as a presence in precision rimfire rifles. The transaction will combine two leading firearms companies with complementary products, to yield a single provider of high- quality pistol, revolver, shotgun and rifle products.



Michael F. Golden, President and CEO of Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation, said, "The acquisition of Thompson/Center Arms is an important step in our diversification strategy. Thompson/Center Arms has consistently delivered both profits and strong gross margins while building its position in the hunting rifle market. This move will expand our presence in the $1.1 billion long gun market by providing immediate entry into the hunting rifle and black powder segments, which represents approximately $600 million in domestic sales. In addition to carving out a leadership role in black powder and single shot hunting rifles, Thompson/Center Arms has developed tremendous expertise in manufacturing long-gun barrels, a competency that will be important to Smith & Wesson as we expand our capabilities even further into the long gun market."

The purchase price for Thompson/Center Arms includes the company's Rochester, New Hampshire facility, which produces all of the company's products and is situated geographically between Smith & Wesson's manufacturing operations in Springfield, Massachusetts and Houlton, Maine. The transaction will be financed with the proceeds from the sale of convertible senior notes and an acquisition line of credit.



In conjunction with the acquisition, Gregg Ritz, President and CEO of Thompson/Center Arms, will be named President of Smith & Wesson - Hunting. He will continue to lead the Thompson/Center Arms operation and will head Smith & Wesson's efforts to develop its hunting business. Ritz said, "In addition to bringing together two well-established and highly respected brands in the firearms industry, this acquisition increases opportunities for both Smith & Wesson and Thompson/Center Arms. Smith & Wesson's ability to provide capital for growth and expertise in lean manufacturing processes will provide critical support for our new product pipeline and our need for increased capacity based on strong customer demand. In turn, Thompson/Center Arms' array of barrel manufacturing expertise, hunting rifle products, and accessories fits nicely into the Smith & Wesson portfolio of pistols, revolvers, shotguns and future hunting rifles. There is absolutely no overlap in our product lines, while there is tremendous similarity in our dealer and distribution channels and our marketing vehicles."

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Re: S&W Aquires Thompson/Center for $102 million
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2006, 06:49:55 AM »
Sorry to read that considering 2 of the last 3 S&W revolvers I bought in the last year had to be sent back for problems.  Never had that many problems with T/C's, maybe S&W will learn from T/C instead of the other way around.

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Re: S&W Aquires Thompson/Center for $102 million
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2006, 06:53:03 AM »
I hope for the best but do not believe this will be good for T/C

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Re: S&W Aquires Thompson/Center for $102 million
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2006, 07:28:45 AM »
OH No !!!

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Re: S&W Aquires Thompson/Center for $102 million
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2006, 08:22:27 AM »
I like both S&W and T/C. I have had nothing but good experiences with both. So I don't think it is a bad thing.
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Re: S&W Aquires Thompson/Center for $102 million
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2006, 08:49:18 AM »
Time will tell if bigger means better in this situation. Knowing no more than I do about T/C financials, $102 million seems like a bargain for S&W.
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Re: S&W Aquires Thompson/Center for $102 million
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2006, 09:01:48 AM »
Time will tell if bigger means better in this situation. Knowing no more than I do about T/C financials, $102 million seems like a bargain for S&W.

No kidding! $100 million is chump change.

I would think that S&W could have built their own facilities for less than that, especially considering the tiny $600 million market they're going for. Heck if I can read the future of the market, but it looks to me like S&W is anticipating some growth somewhere.

My guess is that the near-sighted Thompson CEO sold out to a potential competitor (S&W) in exchange for a personal favor. Blech.

EDIT: Did S&W used to make their shotguns and rifles in-house?

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Re: S&W Aquires Thompson/Center for $102 million
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2006, 10:55:00 AM »
I don't recall S&W rifles.  I too, hope this is for the best, as I do like both company's.
Way I see it, Gregg Ritz sold his company for decent money, probably not enough for T/C, but possibly more than he paid for it just a couple years ago.  AND he still has a job, a good one at that.

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Re: S&W Aquires Thompson/Center for $102 million
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2006, 11:16:53 AM »
I just hope they keep the locks offthe T/C guns!!
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Re: S&W Aquires Thompson/Center for $102 million
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2006, 11:18:00 AM »
I just hope they keep the locks offthe T/C guns!!
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Re: S&W Aquires Thompson/Center for $102 million
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2006, 11:50:35 AM »
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Re: S&W Aquires Thompson/Center for $102 million
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2006, 01:59:23 PM »
I don't recall S&W rifles.  I too, hope this is for the best, as I do like both company's.
Way I see it, Gregg Ritz sold his company for decent money, probably not enough for T/C, but possibly more than he paid for it just a couple years ago.  AND he still has a job, a good one at that.

I had a S&W model 1500 Rifle in 25-06 a long time ago. It was a very well made rifle and shot great.
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Re: S&W Aquires Thompson/Center for $102 million
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2006, 02:02:12 PM »
NOT GOOD

Care to explain why?? I would like to know why so many people feel this way. I don't see as there will be much change to the T/C product.
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Re: S&W Aquires Thompson/Center for $102 million
« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2006, 02:29:48 PM »
The larger corporations get, the more impersonal and uncaring they become for both customers and employees. Unhappy employees are not good for product line quality. Bottom line becomes THE most important thing with quality and safety a distant second and third place. Bottom line is important for survival, but the spread is at times obscene. Also when S&W absorbs TC, it reduces competition in the gun market. If you cant beat them, buy them. All this is bad, very bad and the end of TC as we have known it.

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Re: S&W Aquires Thompson/Center for $102 million
« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2006, 03:49:13 PM »
Will S&W honor my "Lifetime Warranty" on my TC Contenders or did that just mean the "Lifetime" of TC as a company?

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Re: S&W Aquires Thompson/Center for $102 million
« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2006, 04:53:52 PM »
I just hope they keep the locks offthe T/C guns!!



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Re: S&W Aquires Thompson/Center for $102 million
« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2006, 04:58:51 PM »
As stated in other posts, The TC employees are in for a rough ride. When corporations merge there is duplication of departments services ect. This can only mean one thing, lay offs. This makes for a dismal work atmosphere for the surviving employees. The sky is falling, and the sun is setting on TC. Its actually worse than I had previously thought.

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Re: S&W Aquires Thompson/Center for $102 million
« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2006, 05:17:48 PM »
I don't see how this can possibly be good.  Yes, they are two great companies; it doesn't mean they belong together.  Cheesehead raises very valid points.  The employees lose and whether we lose remains to be seen since S&W was not a direct competitor with T/C.  I believe if Greg Ritz is able to call the shots; then things should be okay for us as customers and fans of T/C.  If it's just a figurehead position; then I don't think the future looks good. 

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Re: S&W Aquires Thompson/Center for $102 million
« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2006, 02:36:01 AM »

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;D :D  The sky is falling, the sky is falling said chicken little.  ;D :D ;)

so this is how we moderators respond to people we disagree with?    i guess i didnt get the memo.....

it may not be bad,  but it definately isnt going to improve anything for us owners.  the best i think we can hope for is that we notice no change.  having said that,  and working for a company that is very large, and seeing how corporate america works these days,  i think it bodes ill for gun owners.   corporations chase the dollar, and when they get too big they forget what got them where they are.  once the beancounters get the excutives ears,  hold on......

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Re: S&W Aquires Thompson/Center for $102 million
« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2006, 06:02:02 AM »

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;D :D  The sky is falling, the sky is falling said chicken little.  ;D :D ;)

so this is how we moderators respond to people we disagree with?    i guess i didnt get the memo.....

it may not be bad,  but it definately isnt going to improve anything for us owners.  the best i think we can hope for is that we notice no change.  having said that,  and working for a company that is very large, and seeing how corporate america works these days,  i think it bodes ill for gun owners.   corporations chase the dollar, and when they get too big they forget what got them where they are.  once the beancounters get the excutives ears,  hold on......

Moderator or not, I can express my feeling as anyone else here. I put my pants on the same way as any of you do. So get over yourself  myronman3.

I just see 4 or 5 post here with the same topic and the same guys are saying how the gun world is falling apart. S&W is going to destroy T/C and all the T/C people are going to get lad off. It is all speculation not any fact's. Yes that is chicken little syndrome, plain and simple. 

If you don't like how I post don't read my posts, very simple even you might understand that concept. My post was not attacking anyone or obscene in anyway.

Mikey,

please let me know if you think my post was out of line. Seeing's how you are the Moderator for this area.

Seeing's how myronman3 upgraded himself to a global Moderator and want to make a issue over my post.
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Re: S&W Aquires Thompson/Center for $102 million
« Reply #20 on: December 19, 2006, 08:55:10 AM »
Point is none of us truly know what kind of financial shape TC is in, or what S&W has in mind.  One possible way this could have worked out is that TC would close like just happened with the folks making Winchester rifles.  That wasn't much good.  And the infusion of capitol by the S&W Holding Company may put new life back into TC.  Greybeard spoke of new product soon to be released, and this purchase took some time to put together.  Perhaps there is a connection.  And like I said in a post on another forum I have worked with companies that purchased other successful companies and left them alone.  I don't know what the plans are, and neither do most of us.

In any event, all the handwringing in the world won't change anything.  All we can do is wait and see.  And hope for the best.
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Re: S&W Aquires Thompson/Center for $102 million
« Reply #21 on: December 19, 2006, 08:58:39 AM »
actually, i dont take issue with you being a moderator; i took issue that you called someone "chicken little"  because they had a different opinion than you did.  curiously enough; that reply is deleted now.....  

whether it turns into a bad thing or not is pure speculation on anyone's part.  all we can do is judge from what we have seen in the past, and my personal experience leads me to my opinion.  

regarding the venomous personal message you sent me,  i am tempted to cut and paste it for all to see what a gentleman redhawk can really be.  out of respect for the forums overall, i will not.  
anyone who wants to see it can pm me and i will share it via p.m.  

please dont send me trash like that.

merry Christmas to ALL (especially you, red), and best wishes for the coming new year.   ;D

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Re: S&W Aquires Thompson/Center for $102 million
« Reply #22 on: December 19, 2006, 09:10:02 AM »
Rest accursed I did not delete my post. And I stand by what I said.

Also my PM to you was a personal message let off the board. If you want to be a child about the whole thing be my guest.  My chicken little statement goes out to everyone that thinks the sky is falling just because S&W bought out T/C not aimed at one person.

If you want to continue this contest here is my e-mail address. Surfish7@aol.com. I tried to use the PM message board, but you choose to make it open for all.

Now you went and hurt my feeling on not wishing me a Marry Christmas.  :'(
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« Reply #23 on: December 19, 2006, 09:16:15 AM »
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oh, but i did.  sincerely.   

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« Reply #24 on: December 19, 2006, 09:18:45 AM »
and i might add,  that no one hopes more than i do that it works to our favor.  it is just that life has shown me to be cautious about things like this,  and personal experience with similar things has taught me what happens.

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Re: S&W Aquires Thompson/Center for $102 million
« Reply #25 on: December 19, 2006, 09:35:45 AM »
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That was my whole point, no one really knows what is going to happen. There may be more jobs opened up, the list can go on and on. Why does it always have to be a bad thing?  S&W has survived the British invasion and have been around for over a hundred years. That's got to say a lot for a company out there in the gun industry.

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« Reply #26 on: December 19, 2006, 09:48:48 AM »
it isnt about smith and wesson, it is more about the path corporate america has taken.  companies merge, then the axe comes.  usually about 9 months to a year and a half after the merger.   and once that happens,  it just plummets downhill.   the white collars rape and pilllage the company, and the working stiffs get the short end of the stick.  most importantly,  the product suffers.  company after company,  it seems the norm rather than the exception in todays world.

hopefully, us nay sayers will be wrong. 

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Re: S&W Aquires Thompson/Center for $102 million
« Reply #27 on: December 19, 2006, 12:56:26 PM »
NOT GOOD

Care to explain why?? I would like to know why so many people feel this way. I don't see as there will be much change to the T/C product.


So,,, I am ASKED my opinion on the TC buy out. I give my honest opinion. Some people only want opinion that mirrors their opinion or the "chicken little" reference is used. I do not understand this. The "chicken little" reference is deleted. Now I am confused. The poster/moderator stands by the "chicken little" statement even after it is deleted. Another moderator/poster states disagreement to this behavior and is accused of going global. Now I am beginning to understand, I had better agree with redhawk1 or else.

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Re: S&W Aquires Thompson/Center for $102 million
« Reply #28 on: December 19, 2006, 01:58:18 PM »
NOT GOOD

Care to explain why?? I would like to know why so many people feel this way. I don't see as there will be much change to the T/C product.


So,,, I am ASKED my opinion on the TC buy out. I give my honest opinion. Some people only want opinion that mirrors their opinion or the "chicken little" reference is used. I do not understand this. The "chicken little" reference is deleted. Now I am confused. The poster/moderator stands by the "chicken little" statement even after it is deleted. Another moderator/poster states disagreement to this behavior and is accused of going global. Now I am beginning to understand, I had better agree with redhawk1 or else.

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you don't have to agree with me, like you, I stated my opinion on your opinion. I don't have to agree with you or you with me. That is what makes this such a great country. We are able to form our own opinion's. Be it right or wrong.

I say we wait it out and see how it turns out.  T/C and S&W have both come out with some great designs and each as a totally different concept.  Do you really think there will be a lot of changes to the top selling muzzleloader today?
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Re: S&W Aquires Thompson/Center for $102 million
« Reply #29 on: December 19, 2006, 03:26:43 PM »
I believe TC will lose its identity and its ability to continue to design as it once did. Its independence will be gone along with its ability to be interesting and unique. These problems listed here and in my other posts are distinct possibilities and have actually happened in other corporate mergers and are only my opinion. At no time did I say these are absolute certainties. I have been a TC fan for many years and this makes me sad.

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