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Remington model 742, model 4 and model 7400
« on: January 03, 2007, 11:50:07 PM »
What are the differences in these rifles?
If you were going to buy one and reliability was top priority which would you choose?
I'm interested in getting one of these model in a 308 Win but don't know the differences in the models.
Are there any certain things you need to know or do with these rifles as far as cleaning and maintenance is concerned?
What is typical accuracy for these rifles at 100 yards?
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Re: Remington model 742, model 4 and model 7400
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2007, 05:25:45 AM »
Remington model 740’s were made from 1955 to 1958.

Remington model 742’s were made from 1960 to 1980. Improvements over the 740 was less jamming; 740’s tended to jam more often. The reason had something to do with the bolt returning too quick and catching on the spent shell before it could eject or something along those lines. Remington discovered this through high speed photography.

Remington model 7400’s went into production in 1981 and are still made today. Improvements over the 742 included a new locking system for the bolt and an improved gas operating system to name a few.

Remington model Four’s were made from 1981 to 1988 and were really just a high grade (more expensive) version of the model 7400.

Accuracy? Depends on who you talk to I guess. Bolt action guys will always say they suck but most people don’t by an auto (or a pump or lever action for that matter) to drive tacks; they buy them to harvest game.

In Maine where we hunt its pretty much “Remington Country” and the majority are autos:
My Dad shoots a 742 Woodsmaster in .30-06. Both of my brothers shoot 7400 synthetics in .30-06. My cousin Kris uses a 742 in .30-06 and his brother-in-law Jean uses a 742 in .280. Our friend Randy uses a 7400 in .30-06 and one of his son’s uses a 7400 Carbine in .30-06. Another friend Dick uses either: a 7400 in .280, or 742 in .30-06.

Dependability? I have no experience with 740’s or Fours. I will say that my Dad, Cousin Kris and our friend Dick have all had issues with the 742’s. All of them have fallen victim to the trap of not letting the bolt slam when they bring a cartridge into the chamber from the magazine. When hunting, the idea is usually to be quiet; holding the bolt back so it doesn’t slam is a recipe for failure. Not always, but if you don’t let that bolt slam and lock up, I guarantee that one of those times (usually when there’s a nice buck in your sights) the gun won’t fire. This has happened ONCE to each of them; it’s a lesson that’s quickly learned and easily avoidable.

Dick had an issue once with the gas port on his; something to do with too much oil and crud in there. A similar thing (crud build-up) happened to my Dad and Kris’s rifle when his father had it, but it was from the clip. The cure for that is spelled out in another thread here: http://www.graybeardoutdoors.com/smf/index.php/topic,99612.0.html

I don’t recall any issues with the 7400’s except Dick had a problem using some hand loads someone made for him. Are the 7400’s that more reliable than the 742’s? Who knows, you have to realize that the 742’s have been in use each year since the early 60’s when these guys bought them; I think you can’t fault a hunting rifle that’s not cleaned and maintained by professional armorers to have some issues after 40 years or so. The 7400’s are 20 years or so younger so it’s hard to tell…
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Re: Remington model 742, model 4 and model 7400
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2007, 11:55:58 AM »
I owned a model 740 in 30-06 that performed great for me.  I traded it because it got too heavy after I got older.  The gun shot great.  I currently own a 7400 30-06 with a satin finish and engraved receiver that has never been fired.  I bought it because the price was right.  It is also too heavy for me.
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Re: Remington model 742, model 4 and model 7400
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2007, 02:30:44 PM »
Thank you very, very much for the excellent information!!!!

I bet the recoil from these rifles is a lot less than the same cartridge fired from a bolt gun?

Thanks again!
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Re: Remington model 742, model 4 and model 7400
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2007, 02:37:29 PM »
 I bought a 742 in 06 it was a anniversary model made in 1966 for a steal of a price $100.00 out of a pawn shop it was in about 90 percent I put a scope  on it and ran 20 rounds through it then I developed a handload for it ran about  30 rounds through it with out one hang up and it shoots about 1 ½ to 1 ¼ through the 50 or so rounds I picked it up because I couldn’t pass up the deal and it would make a good loaner gun  
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Re: Remington model 742, model 4 and model 7400
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2007, 03:04:18 PM »
Slufoot,
Go back to page 14 in this forum's archives and read "Write up on the Rem. Semis". The contributor got this, I believe, from a Remington informational passage which is now not available.

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Re: Remington model 742, model 4 and model 7400
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2007, 12:04:01 AM »
targshooter, Thank you for telling me about the old post, it is very informative and well written.
Thanks again!
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Re: Remington model 742, model 4 and model 7400
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2007, 01:16:19 AM »
targshooter,   Thanks for the reference. This is a great article for all of us.
best,         nrb

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Re: Remington model 742, model 4 and model 7400
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2007, 05:00:16 AM »
About 20 years ago I bought a used 742 in 30-06.  I bought it in Illinois but I was moving to Missouri where I could use it to hunt deer.  It has never failed to cycle when it was the gun’s fault.  A couple of times I had failed to screw my resizing die down enough and the cartridge wouldn’t chamber and once I ran a bunch of light 2400 loads for my daughter to shoot, and they just didn’t have enough ump to cycle the gun.  Other than those two times it has been flawless.  I do wish it were in .308 although there really isn’t a whiskers difference in the 150G bullets I load for each.  Maybe I was just lucky but mine has been a great gun.
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Re: Remington model 742, model 4 and model 7400
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2007, 08:54:22 AM »
Do you have to use small base dies when you reload for these rifles?
I am really wanting to get a 7400 and would like to know all I can find out before I buy.
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Re: Remington model 742, model 4 and model 7400
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2007, 05:25:23 AM »
I personally have had no problem using my regular set of dies with this rifle.  Others may have had other experiences.
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Re: Remington model 742, model 4 and model 7400
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2007, 11:01:53 AM »
In the past I have used Full Length Dies to handload for semi's. Got occasional jams, don't know if they were related to the handloads. I will be trying small base dies, as I have aquired a set, for my .30-06. Hopefully, with a clean chamber, small base resizing, correct powder choice, and good velocities, malfunctions will be eliminated.