Author Topic: whisker biscuit? (Read 3729 times)

sureshot2040 · « **on:** January 08, 2007, 11:32:11 PM »

hey pards
anyone use one??
are they good/bad?
how long do they last before wearing out?
thanks
sureshot

dukkillr · « **Reply #1 on:** January 09, 2007, 06:01:35 AM »

lots of people (including me)
good (very good)
quite a while (I shoot a great deal and mines looking good after roughly 1 year)
you're welcome
dukkillr

They are absolutely wonderful. You no longer worry about the arrow falling off the rest. I've noticed no loss in accuracy. They are also far quieter.

Charlie Tango · « **Reply #2 on:** January 09, 2007, 11:22:23 AM »

I just got back into shooting and put one on the bow so I don't have a good comparison for you, but I love mine. It is great for still hunting. I have shot quite a few arrows through mine and don't see any wear. I can only guess for the target shooters out there it would not be the best.

mg66 · « **Reply #3 on:** January 09, 2007, 11:54:47 AM »

I prefer drop away rests personally. The less I have touch the arrow shaft or vanes seems to me I can then take that away from the equation to hopefully make a more consistent arrow flight . My nephew put one on his new Mathews and got rid of it and went with a drop away within a week or two. On the other hand a lot of people use them and seem to like them.

horseman308 · « **Reply #4 on:** January 09, 2007, 02:59:02 PM »

I love mine. I think it's a matter of preference, and I prefer the simplest, most straight-forward set up with no fuss when hunting. if you shoot a biscuit make sure you have tough vanes (not feathers) because the whiskers can cause some wear on weaker vanes. Also make sure you get arrows with NO camoflage. Shoot something like Beman ICS Hunters or Ventures that have very smooth shafts. There are other arrows that work as well, but those are the ones I shoot and several others have recommended them. The camo coating makes the shaft a little rough and that can cause extra noise when drawing. The Bemans have an extremely smooth glossy finish that is deadly quiet. Third, make sure you get the biscuit with the right sized hole for your shaft. It should be a little big.

I've not noticed any decrease in accuracy at hunting ranges (out to 40 yards). That being said, if I were shooting for competition I would shoot a drop-away. But for hunting only it's absolutely fabulous.

Rem270 · « **Reply #5 on:** January 11, 2007, 04:27:59 PM »

I would go with a good drop away

HoundDog55 · « **Reply #6 on:** January 16, 2007, 12:58:56 AM »

Not seen anything close for hunting. My son has shot one for two years. He wouldnt shoot anything else. I have one on order for my new bow too.

GRIMJIM · « **Reply #7 on:** January 16, 2007, 11:57:32 AM »

I've heard a lot of people rave about them. I personally am looking to replace my current rest with a drop away as someone else said here to eliminate the rest touching the arrow from the equation.

The one question I have is in very bad weather do they get frozen up? I guess it would have to be really bad out though.

bscman · « **Reply #8 on:** January 17, 2007, 08:50:01 AM »

I really like my WhiskerBiscuit.
I've been shooting it for about 2 1/2 years, and it's still in great shape. It hasn't come loose/slipped on me yet (like some may complain).
I shoot aluminum shafts. I have a few issues with vanes coming loose at first (fletch my own) but found if I put a small dot of glue at the tip of the vane the issue is almost entirely eliminated.

I've never compared using a chronograph, but it doesn't seem like it's reduced my FPS enough to make a notable difference.
Accuracy actually improved over my old rest (spring loaded prong type)...bringing my comfort range from about 35yards to 45yards.

I never really had an issue with arrows falling off the rest, but using the W/B has made things a a little easier.

As for the question regarding the w/b freezing--it's not much of a problem. I've left mine in the bed of the pickup several times (while hunting) as snow falls or in icing/rain conditions.
The few times I've pulled it out with ice build up on the whiskers, a few flicks of the fingers breaks it all away and the rest functions like normal. The ice doesn't really have anything to adhere to, as the whiskers are slippery and smooth.

My father enjoyed shooting through mine enough, he's also put one on his bow. He was lucky enough to get his on clearance at walmart (just after hunting season last year) for $14.

I'm not one who needs the best of the best, only what works WELL for me. This rest compliments my combo (10yr old PSE) nicely... If I were a pure target shooter, I don't think I'd use it--but then I'd probably switch to carbons too.
For what I do, and what I use it for, I doubt I could find something I like as much.

K.K · « **Reply #9 on:** January 17, 2007, 02:36:14 PM »

I agree with you guys. As for pure target shooting, a fall-away might be best, but I shoot a whisker biscuit for hunting and 3-D all summer. It is the rig that I hunt with, so I practice with it all year with it. I've been shooting the same one for 3 years with very little wear. I am no Chuck Adams, but my accuracy withit is as good as I can shoot anything else. For hunting, I don't think that there is anything better.(for me). So simple, I wish I'd thought of i

Echo4Lima · « **Reply #10 on:** January 18, 2007, 11:01:10 AM »

Whats the energy/fps loss with it? I have a dpop away.

Heavyhaul · « **Reply #11 on:** January 18, 2007, 06:22:26 PM »

The best I can tell, about 3-5 fps.

Echo4Lima · « **Reply #12 on:** January 19, 2007, 09:03:50 AM »

I wondered due to the fletchings "catching" the rest the way they do. I increased the ammount of helical on my vanes and got a lot of drop from the twist slowing the arrow. Got much better flight and accuracy.

rickyp · « **Reply #13 on:** February 07, 2007, 01:13:41 PM »

I have a used but good shape drop tine in the camo. the whiskers ring has a few chips taken out of the paint but you can replace the ring with a newer one. This is for alum. arrows.

I can be talked in to a trade
I am looking for some 2219 arrows, spitfire 85 gr and 100 gr. braudheads, a bunch of 4 to 5" vanes in flor. orange and flor yellow, a very good bag target. or??

HoundDog55 · « **Reply #14 on:** February 12, 2007, 11:49:52 AM »

Good easy to use rest. can turn your bow over and not drop arrow. Last about a year for me.

22lyons · « **Reply #15 on:** March 09, 2007, 04:33:10 PM »

I really liked mine. The blazers would touch on them a bit. Even with that I would group well out to 80 yards.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #16 on:** March 09, 2007, 04:39:38 PM »

I've used one exclusivley since they came out. Can't imagine a better more foolproof hunting rest.

GANDER · « **Reply #17 on:** March 14, 2007, 02:40:49 AM »

I agree... I love mine I shot the biggest buck of my life last year using one. I use aluminum arrows with feathers becuase I belive they are more forgiving when going thruit then vanes.

BearScat · « **Reply #18 on:** April 03, 2007, 01:25:29 AM »

Haven't been shooting one long, but I can tell you from my experience accuracy isn't an issue if you practice a lot and plan to use it for hunting. They can be extremely beneficial in a spot and stalk type situation...the arrow will not fall off the rest.

panman · « **Reply #19 on:** April 03, 2007, 04:06:47 AM »

Been using one for years off and on.Cant get along without one,not hunting anyway.I also get the alm.one,and i get real nice groups with it even with carbon arrows,witch buy the way,is all that i shoot.Never wore one out and never had it freeze up.Like bscman,iv had snow and ice all over it and i tried shooting it like that,it shot just the same.Most of the time i just touch the whiskers and the ice falls off.The speed is 2-5 fps.less depending on how much heical you have on your feathers or vanes.As far as vanes go,i find that Blazers preform better than most,without messing up your vanes.As stated,put a drop of glue in front of the vanes,and a drop in the back,in case of an arrow going almost through.Cant say enough good about them,[Blazers,or Bisquet].pan.

corbanzo · « **Reply #20 on:** June 26, 2007, 08:30:16 PM »

Put my whisker biscuit on today... and after an hour of shooting or so, I'm hooked. Got the bow all re-tuned, and she shoots straight as all get out, cannot complain one bit. Still hits hard and flies straight, plus no losing any arrows. This is the whisker biscuit quick shot, with the side loading capability, very nice.

I would have to say that after today, I will not be going back to the drop away.

Cheesehead · « **Reply #21 on:** June 27, 2007, 02:19:59 AM »

The best hunting rest I have ever used, no moving parts to fail, I love mine.

Cheese

Echo4Lima · « **Reply #22 on:** June 30, 2007, 05:46:19 AM »

Cheese, "no moving parts". May have just sold me!

meleagris4 · « **Reply #23 on:** July 10, 2007, 05:42:27 AM »

the jury is out on the biscuit. while it is the most fool proof rest available it also has some drawbacks. At 25+ yards there is noticeable arrow drop over prongs and drop aways because of the friction produced. this is evident when you look at how the bristles ripple vanes and fuzz feathers. the other drawback is NO HELICAL on your fletching. if you are shooting an expandable b-head or your bow is very tuned up no problem but if you are getting bad arrow flight with broadheads helical fletching is a very good thing.

the solution? go with a capture rest (like a biscuit) that also drops away like a ripcord rest or a QAD ultra rest. they both hold your arrow in place until you shoot. I perfer the QAD simply because if you let down and have to draw again the rest stays in "capture mode" unlike the Ripcord. I've sent many of these rests up and gotten very good feedback.

charto · « **Reply #24 on:** August 29, 2007, 05:55:51 PM »

one thing to say about whiskers is most of the time your odd fletch(feather or vane) go's up, hmm knock it so the odd fletch is up,
if you look at the whiskers you will see a triangle of a darker color on the bottom, thats where the two like fletches belong. Everyone probably knew this except for me lol

Cottonwood · « **Reply #25 on:** August 29, 2007, 06:01:38 PM »

I use the Whisker Biscuit and wouldn't use anything else... as soon as I put it on, and got everything all lined up, my groups tightend right up as well.

no guns here · « **Reply #26 on:** August 29, 2007, 09:34:01 PM »

Okay... ya'll enlighten me... I didn't know that the orientation of the odd vane mattered on the WB. Why does it matter? Maybe it does... I've been shooting one for a few weeks off and on as I get time and have had a lot of arrows ripping the back end of one vane off. I'll have to go and pay more attention to how the vanes are oriented when I'm shooting. What I read is that the odd vane should go up? With my old rest it went down between the rest. I'm shooting straight vanes, not helical.

ngh

Redhawk1 · « **Reply #27 on:** August 30, 2007, 02:12:33 AM »

Yes it matters how the orientation of the odd vane is. When you look at a Whisker Biscuit you will see brown and black whiskers, the black whiskers go on the bottom, they are a little harder or stiffer then the brown whiskers. That is to support the arrow, that is why you don't want the odd vane to go through that area.

charto · « **Reply #28 on:** August 31, 2007, 04:54:04 PM »