Facist, now that's funny, especially coming from you!
I have been reading about a new round (fairly new), a 50BMG necked down to 416cal., it can actually fly better than a 50. Well we better get those boys!!
Then you have the big 338's with the 250-300 gr & over bullets, you could say their range is between a 300mag & a 50cal. What about that? If the big 338 is capable of 750 yards & they are & further, do we need to drop down to that group & include them? They can be set up on a table or bench too, or they may use a 40 pound 300 mag. bench gun. Oops, they are acting like the 50 boys now & they may be even be fat, have personal tags & belong to a country club. Yea, these cartridges & types/weights of guns
& ranges fired can blend into one fuzzy ball in a hurry & WE ALL KNOW IT!!!
No, this is dripping with hypocrisy. It is OK for Nonya to speak of shooting Deer at 600 yards with a 300WM as he has mentioned (I
agree, BTW & am allways ready to do the same) & then condemn a 50 cal guy for shooting a Deer or Elk at 1,000 (800 yds. just as appalling no doubt). I have seen the attitudes toward the RUM & other rounds as they will outrange the 300WM a bit. So I guess what we all need to do is check with Nonya & ASK what rounds we can shoot.
No doubt these fat boys with the Trucks, must be long beds to handle the 4 wheelers & the bench behind it, or is it trailers, anyway,
they must have permission to hunt the area & the method is known by the landowners. Otherwise, they could not be out there with all of that gear otherwise. If it's Fed. land & they are doing something wrong you would have reported them long ago since you hate them so much. So, if the landowners don't care, it is NONE of your business, period. I know that when I hunt gov. land & I
go into an area where there are other hunters, I move. If I am hunting a Ranch like I do now in WY., we stay in contact with the
Ranch owner & he tells us which area we hunt & tells others where others can hunt. Makes more sense than banning a 50, 338 or a
308, just common sense stuff.
You talked about how the Elk were less skittish in the past, sounds to me like you in the past ran these same roads, spotted the Elk
& shot near the vehichle or were able to do a little stalk, nothing wrong with a short stalk, but I would not want to ban a weapon just because you have to work harder now, as you mentioned. Sounds like these boys shot a few Elk further away than you could & it ticked you off! If you had been hiking over the mountain to begin with this discussion would have never occured.