Author Topic: 7x57 load (Read 4751 times)

waco58 · « **on:** January 11, 2007, 07:50:14 PM »

Does anyone here have a good deer load for 7x57 mauser? It is a new ruger MII thanks

7x57mm · « **Reply #1 on:** January 11, 2007, 08:31:22 PM »

you need to give a whole lot more information. what kind of deer do you plan to hunt. where will you be hunting. at what distance do you intend to be your maximum distance at which to shoot. also keep this in mind, a person can give you a load which shoots tiny little half inch groups in his rifle, which is also a Ruger Mark II, and it may not shoot worth a darn in your rifle. a bullet that is accurate in one Ruger, or any other rifle manufacture, may group in patterns in another rifle. a powder that does well in one rifle may be lousy in another of the same make. at the same time, a good load in one rifle may do well in another. a buddy needed a load for his 7x57mm and I gave him my pet load for the 160 grain bullet. he tried the same load and it happened to be a tack driver in his rifle as well. any load is not a given in all rifles. if someone gives you a load that shoots reasonably well in your rifle but doesn't quite reach a certain standard, then you need to play with the load, such as go up a half grain at a time, or down a half grain at a time. It may be also that the seating depth works great in one rifle ain't worth a hoot in another firearm. so that may take some adjustment too. have a nice day. Tom Purdom

Cement Man · « **Reply #2 on:** January 12, 2007, 02:32:15 AM »

Waco,
If you are inquiring about a factory deer load, my hunting buddy uses the Hornady 139 gr. soft point with great success. I think it is Hornady Custom ammo. Should be good for Max pbr to around 250 yards, and work well with all deer if you put it where it belongs. Unless there is some abberation, you should expect decent (if not better) hunting accuracy with your new Ruger and Hornadys. If your not satisfied, make sure you keep it clean, and try some other brands. Good luck! I like Rugers myself.

waco58 · « **Reply #3 on:** January 12, 2007, 10:00:20 AM »

Yes I understand that it might not shot in my rifle. And I might have to tinker with it, and then it stil might not shoot well. I reload and I just want something with more zing than factory ammo.

7x57mm · « **Reply #4 on:** January 12, 2007, 12:30:48 PM »

I have just two bullet weights I shoot in my CZ 550 American in 7x57mm. One is the 162 grain Hornady SST and the other is the 160 grain Nosler Partition. I use the same load for both weights and get stupendous accurach with each. Because the CZ has a very long throat, I have to load the bullets way, way out there to get within .01 inch from the lands. My COL with the 162 grain SSTs is 3.295. I cannot even load a 140 grain bullet and get near the lands, nor a 154 grain Hornady either. I use Remington cases, Federal large rifle primers, 48.3 grains of H414 powder. The 162 grains have a chronographed velocity of 2,815 fps at 10 feet from the barrel. This load gives me half inch groups at 100 yards. This is a hot load, but shows no pressure signs at all in my rifle. Your rifle may be entirely different, so if you decide to try it, drop down five grains and work up in half grain increments. Your Mark II has a barrel twist of 1x9.5. Mine has a twist of 1x8.66 inches, which is very well suited for the longer bullets such as the 160 and 175 grain projectiles. You might go to reloadersnest.com and then click on the rifles section, then find 7x57mm and you'll find a boatload of loads and information about the little 7mm and most other calibers as well. Good luck ... Tom Purdom

beemanbeme · « **Reply #5 on:** January 12, 2007, 01:05:17 PM »

Possibly a real sleeper for deer would be the 154gr Hornady Round Nosed bullet. Since moving to Wild and Wonderful West Virginia, I've tried that bullet in both a 7-08 and in a 7x57. Either one will smooth slap a deer on his a$$. Don't know how they'd work on a big mulie but I've killed a bunch of those with a 7-08 using a 140NP or a 145gr Speer GS but on these small WV whitetails, they are very sudden.

TNrifleman · « **Reply #6 on:** January 12, 2007, 02:09:45 PM »

My Winchester Model 70 Featherweight in 7x57 shoots very well with a Nosler 140 grain Partition over 48 grains of Reloder 19, a R-P case, and a CCI 200 LRP. This is one of my favorite deer rifles and my favorite load in that rifle.

Blammer · « **Reply #7 on:** January 13, 2007, 07:22:50 PM »

100 gr HP work well for me in mine.

rickt300 · « **Reply #8 on:** January 15, 2007, 02:14:07 AM »

If I wanted a general purpose deer load for a 7MM mauser I would buy some 160 grain Sierra Gamekings and a can of H414 or IMR 4350 and start load developement. Othe good bullets are the 160 grain Speer and the 150 grain Combined Technology ballistic Silvertip. I have thoroughly tested these bullets on deer and feral hogs with excellent results. I generally load these bullets to around 2700 fps.

Don Fischer · « **Reply #9 on:** January 15, 2007, 04:41:53 AM »

Quote from: beemanbeme on January 12, 2007, 01:05:17 PM

Possibly a real sleeper for deer would be the 154gr Hornady Round Nosed bullet. Since moving to Wild and Wonderful West Virginia, I've tried that bullet in both a 7-08 and in a 7x57. Either one will smooth slap a deer on his a$$. Don't know how they'd work on a big mulie but I've killed a bunch of those with a 7-08 using a 140NP or a 145gr Speer GS but on these small WV whitetails, they are very sudden.

Boy I'll second the 154gr RN. Thats about all my old 7x57 Ruger would shoot. It was poison on mule deer and elk in Montata.

wallynut · « **Reply #10 on:** January 19, 2007, 01:37:30 PM »

Lot of success with Hornady 139gr. Just a matter of picking what powder will work well for your rifle.

Slamfire · « **Reply #11 on:** January 20, 2007, 09:40:14 PM »

For deer up to 200 lbs. Speer's 130 grain bullet works well. I never tried it on anything bigger.

EdinCT · « **Reply #12 on:** January 27, 2007, 04:55:26 AM »

I have used 139 gr,Hornadys for years with good results loaded over a charge of IMR 4350 at about 2750 fps. Also 140 gr partitions over a max load of IMR 4064. I can also testify to the effect of the Hornady 154 gr RN, a friend used it because his father had such good results for years. It worked well every time.
I like the 139 because we hunt fields and forest. My son shot a deer at 256 yards and I shot one at 35 this year. Great caliber for mid sized game.
Ed

sabretip · « **Reply #13 on:** June 19, 2007, 07:34:31 PM »

50 grains of H4350 under a 139 grain Hornady chronies at 2825 fps, this is not a hot load in my rifle but you should start low and work up to what your rifle will handle safely.

257 roberts · « **Reply #14 on:** June 20, 2007, 05:17:38 PM »

I've shot deer with a bunch of different bullets and I've settled with the Hornaday 139gr Interloc, It smacks deer GOOD!!!

7x57 · « **Reply #15 on:** June 22, 2007, 02:45:14 PM »

I say it over and over again but, 45 grains of IMR 4350 and 160 grain GrandSlams will whup anything that walks in North America and still be safe and accurate in just about anyone's rifle.

firstshot · « **Reply #16 on:** June 27, 2007, 11:01:07 AM »

Quote from: Don Fischer on January 15, 2007, 04:41:53 AM

Quote from: beemanbeme on January 12, 2007, 01:05:17 PM
Possibly a real sleeper for deer would be the 154gr Hornady Round Nosed bullet. Since moving to Wild and Wonderful West Virginia, I've tried that bullet in both a 7-08 and in a 7x57. Either one will smooth slap a deer on his a$$. Don't know how they'd work on a big mulie but I've killed a bunch of those with a 7-08 using a 140NP or a 145gr Speer GS but on these small WV whitetails, they are very sudden.

Boy I'll second the 154gr RN. Thats about all my old 7x57 Ruger would shoot. It was poison on mule deer and elk in Montata.

Ditto on the 154 Hdy RN. I shoot them in two different 7mm'08's (7/57 twin) and have found them to be extremely accurate.

firstshot
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Ron T. · « **Reply #17 on:** June 29, 2007, 05:14:57 PM »

I worked up to a 50.0 grain load of H4350 under a 140 grain Sierra ProHunter, flat-based bullet in Remington cases sparked by a standard Winchester primer in my Ruger #1 RSI with a full Mannlicher style stock.

This load definitely had a greater recoil and a louder report than lesser loads, but showed no high pressure signs and was very accurate. Estimated muzzle velocity is about 2775 fps out my RSI's 20" barrel.

The 50.0 grain load of H4350 was offered as a MAXIMUM LOAD for MODERN RIFLES ONLY in a well-known reloading manual. It is recommended for MODERN RIFLES ONLY because it has a chamber pressure of 50,000 CUP. SAAMI recommended maximum chamber pressure for the 7x57 Mauser cartridge is normally only 46,000 CUP due to the fact that the older, weaker 1893 & 1895 Mausers in 7x57 are still being used.

In the test rifle (a Ruger Model 77 with a 22-inch barrel), this load yielded a muzzle velocity of 2784 fps.

Strength & Honor...

Ron T.

sabretip · « **Reply #18 on:** December 19, 2007, 01:31:42 PM »

Quote from: Ron T. on June 29, 2007, 05:14:57 PM

I worked up to a 50.0 grain load of H4350 under a 140 grain Sierra ProHunter, flat-based bullet in Remington cases sparked by a standard Winchester primer in my Ruger #1 RSI with a full Mannlicher style stock.

This load definitely had a greater recoil and a louder report than lesser loads, but showed no high pressure signs and was very accurate. Estimated muzzle velocity is about 2775 fps out my RSI's 20" barrel.

The 50.0 grain load of H4350 was offered as a MAXIMUM LOAD for MODERN RIFLES ONLY in a well-known reloading manual. It is recommended for MODERN RIFLES ONLY because it has a chamber pressure of 50,000 CUP. SAAMI recommended maximum chamber pressure for the 7x57 Mauser cartridge is normally only 46,000 CUP due to the fact that the older, weaker 1893 & 1895 Mausers in 7x57 are still being used.

In the test rifle (a Ruger Model 77 with a 22-inch barrel), this load yielded a muzzle velocity of 2784 fps.

Strength & Honor...

Ron T.

The 50 grain load of H4350 under a 139 Hornady Interlock that I mentioned was shot out of a Remington 700 Mountain Rifle. I wouldn't use this in some of the older weaker actions in 7x57. I should have mentioned the rifle I used.

rickt300 · « **Reply #19 on:** December 19, 2007, 03:54:58 PM »

I fooled around with AA 4350 for a long time, around 6 pounds of it using various 150-175 grain bullets. I got pretty good accuracy too. I switched to H414 and definitely feel it is the better powder considering both accuracy and speed. My rifle is a sporterized M98 with a commercial barrel twisted 1 in 9.5 inches. I use 48.0 grains under both 150 and 160 grain bullets. It really drives tacks.

SuperstitionCoues · « **Reply #20 on:** December 21, 2007, 08:29:59 AM »

Quote from: firstshot on June 27, 2007, 11:01:07 AM

Quote from: Don Fischer on January 15, 2007, 04:41:53 AM
Quote from: beemanbeme on January 12, 2007, 01:05:17 PM
Possibly a real sleeper for deer would be the 154gr Hornady Round Nosed bullet. Since moving to Wild and Wonderful West Virginia, I've tried that bullet in both a 7-08 and in a 7x57. Either one will smooth slap a deer on his a$$. Don't know how they'd work on a big mulie but I've killed a bunch of those with a 7-08 using a 140NP or a 145gr Speer GS but on these small WV whitetails, they are very sudden.

Boy I'll second the 154gr RN. Thats about all my old 7x57 Ruger would shoot. It was poison on mule deer and elk in Montata.

Ditto on the 154 Hdy RN. I shoot them in two different 7mm'08's (7/57 twin) and have found them to be extremely accurate.

firstshot
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Make your first shot count!

Firstshot,

Could you post or pm to me your load recipe? I have a Ruger Hawkeye in 7mm-08 that I think this would be just the thing for mulies. If you could please be so kind?

Thanks!

SuperstitionCoues · « **Reply #21 on:** December 21, 2007, 08:31:58 AM »

Whoops! I should have looked closer at the targets.

Merry Christmas all!