308 or 7mm-08

[PartsMan]

If you saw in the classified I sold my 25-06 barrel.
Now I must decide what to shoot next year for white tail.
I have narrowed to 308 or 7-08.
I like the balisics and energy charts for the 7mm
Is recoil different enuff to tell.

[quickdtoo]

 Here's a recoil chart to give you an idea of what to expect..


Tim

http://www.chuckhawks.com/recoil_table.htm

[McLernon]

7mm-08 period. Lots of bullets to choose from and higher B.C.

Mc

[PartsMan]

I have looked at that before.
Seems to be just like the ol 25-06.
Anybody shoot both in handi standard barrel.

[quickdtoo]

I have both, but haven't shot the 7-08 yet.

Tim

[buckslugger]

i got a 7mm08 youth  and it will shoot about 1 1/2 inches at 100 withremington 140 factory stuff ,mild recoil and nice and flat got to love it,havnt tried anything else yet


roy

[sbhooper]

Both are proven performers.  If you are going for nothing bigger than deer, the 7 would be my choice.  The .308 will handle bigger bullets a little better, but with premium bullets, there is very little the 7 won't do.

[Swampman]

I've had and used both.  The.308 would be my choice.  It's more accurate, and has way more bullets to choose from.

[poncaguy]

I have both, prefer the 7-08......both will do fine..........

[zermatt7]

this horse race looks to be about neck and neck

Tim might have to get out to the range for a tie breaker

[PartsMan]

No kidding.
Thanks guys.
And I thought I couldn't decide before.
Are they both accurate in handi.
Of course 2 moa will hit a deer at 300yd
Thats more than I'll ask for from it.

[poncaguy]

My 308 was a Survivor model, put the Choate Varmit Stock and forearm on it, shoots MOA. My 7-08 is the regular Handi, shoots 1 1/4" groups.

[handi243]

Tim has so many guns he can't shoot them all!!!!!!! I have a 308 in a rem. love it haven't got a 08 yet but it is just a matter of time love the 284 cal. lots of bullets for it. Just kiddin with ya Tim just be careful how you post them pics the ATF maybe watchin.

[RickC.]

If it were me, it'd be the .308.

 Nothing against the 7-08, and I plan to get a 7-08 barrel for my wife's Handi as soon as deer season's over--

 But-

 I've hunted with a Remington 788 in .308 since I bought it new in 1981-- faced the same choice then, chose the .308 because none of the local shops had dies for the then still-new 7-08.  In the past 25 years I've seen the 165 Speer BTSP put the smackdown on Texas and Alabama whitetails with authority, and do so with sub-MOA accuracy in the aging Remington.  Not to say the 7-08 would not do the same thing (and I'm going with the 7-08 for a bit lesser recoil, only reason), but there's something about the 165 gr weight in .30 cal that's special, with accuracy, downrange trajectory, and terminal performance, from what I've seen.

 You'd do well with either though-- which one are you Jones'n for?  Go with that!


                                             Rick

[Grizzx2]

Like RickC I've got a model 788 but mine is the 7mm-08. Wouldn't take nothing for it. Have loaded some 160 gr Speer's for it with very good results = Crow's at 300 yds. Was very pleased with the performance and accuracy. Now have it set up with some 120gr's for varmits.
Either way you can't go wrong and you will be pleased with it whether with the 308 or the 7mm-08.

[safetysheriff]

i'd go with the 7mm-08 for shots out to 300 yds on most game in north america that isn't dangerous.    but i'd go with the .308 for its heavier bullets on hogs, black bear, grizzly, and so on at distances out to maybe 250 yds'.   (beyond 250 yds' i'd expect the .30-06 to work better.)

i like the .308 because of bullet weight more than anything else.   i'd agree w/Rick that the .308 with the 165 -- or the 180 -- gr' bullet packs more momentum for better terminal ballistics/penetration on the more dangerous stuff.    the 7mm-08 has some very good ballistic co-efficients, however, for the other game we hunt that doesn't need as much momentum/penetration.

good hunting to you,

ss'  

[Swampman]

The .308 is more accurate than the .30-06 out to 1000 meters.

http://www.snipercountry.com/Articles/AccuracyFacts.asp

[safetysheriff]

swamp'

i'm thinking about bullet velocities, and not accuracy as much.   when trying to 'drill' an animal as large as a hog, black bear, etc......at 300 yds' i don't see the inherent accuracy of the .308 as being needed more than the velocities provided by the .30-06.   it's not a match nor a sniping competition.    the target areas on those animals are significant in size......

ss' 

[RickC.]

Nah, just stalk another 175 yds and shoot 'em with your .45-70 

[Swampman]

"Nah, just stalk another 175 yds and shoot 'em with your .45-70"

That's what I do.  I've pretty much turned my back on modern cartridges.  They are boring....for me anyway.

[PartsMan]

I want a 7mm-08 really bad because its different
and has simular velocity and energy to the 308 at 300yd
even though it has less recoil.
Just can't talk myself in to buying it.
308 rounds are cheaper and more plentiful.

[bajabill]

I havent shot either, but do you really think you can tell the difference in recoil between a 7-08 with 150 gr bullets and a 308 with 150 gr bullets and the same weight and stocked gun?  If so, I think you may be more tuned to your shoulder than I am to mine.  Granted, most factory 7-08 is probably 140 gr but its not fair to attribute recoil reduction to the brass when recoil is determined by the bullet and powder and gun weight.

I am always amazed that the common quote is alway used " produces XX% of the energy of a more powerfull cartridge but without the recoil"  well, DUH.  Download any cartridge and you will get less output and less recoil.  I want a brass design that increases output and reduces recoil    Get to work on that Mr Newton.

[PartsMan]

I have fedrals 2006 ballistics catalog downloaded on my computer.
150g 7mm-08 has 309ft# less energy at muzzle but catches up and passes
150g 308 at 240yds.
Both are power shok soft point.
I didn't believe it at first myself.

[MTGlass]

GO METRIC!

If you can find one.  My friendly FFL holder down the hall had a dickens of a time finding an SB2-Y08 for my daughter & it still isn't here, yet.

I have a Rem Model 7 in 7mm-08.  Killed WT, muleys, elk & antelope with it.  It's a cream puff to shoot.

[BulletBradley]

7mm-08 is the way to go.

[Swampman]

"150g 7mm-08 has 309ft# less energy at muzzle but catches up and passes
150g 308 at 240yds."

The 165gr is what you want to use in the .308.

[captdp]

I've had both, but not in Handis. I also shoot a 7x57. Using a 150 gn 7mm and a 165gn 308 Partitions I can tell no difference on deer and pigs to 300lbs. The 308 may be a little more versitle using heavier bullets for the non-reloader, but for anything under 400lbs or so I prefer the 7mm. If one could shoot milsurp in the handi, I'd probably go that way because of cheap practice. capt david

[PartsMan]

I'm going tosend the reciever off today.
Decided on the 7mm-08.
Its an itch I've got to scratch.
Thanks for the info and opinions guys.
I don't see me shooting anything bigger than white tail anyway.
If so I'll just have to by another gun.

[backstrap]

barr25-06 what do u do use a barrel 1 year for dear season and get a diffrant cal the next year just keep changeing every year? and not just stick with like 1 caliber that u know works? was just wondering so dont take this wrong

[praharin]

I have fedrals 2006 ballistics catalog downloaded on my computer.
150g 7mm-08 has 309ft# less energy at muzzle but catches up and passes
150g 308 at 240yds.
Both are power shok soft point.
I didn't believe it at first myself.

its easy to believe, honestly. the same bullet weight, but a smaller cross section means less wind resistance (ie: better balistic coeficient)