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Offline jrnsuz

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Hunting variety
« on: January 16, 2007, 08:43:20 AM »
the better half (lmao) has decided we need to relocate to AK when the last kid graduates in about 6 yrs. she got all turned on listening to a patient talk about living up there. my question is, where is the greatest variety of hunting and fishing in close proximity to a town with a hospital. we're both in health care and figure it might be good to be employed. we currently live in MO near Kansas City and have almost year-round hunting of one thing or another, as well as good fishing. any suggestions or thoughts would be appreciated.
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Re: Hunting variety
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2007, 11:35:51 AM »
Anchorage has two civilian hospitals, and one large military hospital at Elmendorf AFB.  Most serious cases are sent to Anchorage statewide.  Anchorage is a big city with lots of big city problems, drugs, gangs, and everything big cities have.  The weather is comperable to being in the northern tier of states.  Freeze and thaw all winter.  The main problem with hunting and fishing around Anchorage is that you have to trailer out 100 miles or more to get to good hunting and fishing areas.  But the boom is taking place in Wasillia, about 40 miles north of Anchorage.

Fairbanks has one civilian hospital, and one military hospital at Ft Wainwright.  They are about four miles apart.  Fairbanks is right in the middle of good hunting and fishing.  Half the population of anchorage comes up this direction to hunt.  But the weather here is not as nice as Anchorage in the winter,but Anchorage does not have summers, it's always colder and windy there in summer.  We do get colder weather, but the summers make up for it, we have beautiful summer in comparrison to Anchorage.  Usual summer temps are in the upper 60s and 70s, some years 80s and 90s do happen but that is not too common.  After a couple of years, and you learn how to get along with the colder temps, it is not near as bad as you would think.

My question is why are you waiting?  My neighbor came up here to visit a friend (another neighbor) ten years ago.  He stayed for two weeks and liked it, so did his wife, and kids.  Upon returning his oldest daughter was caught shoplifting at a mall.  Found out shoplifting was a requirement to be accepted by her peers there in Michigan.  And hanging out at the Mall was what the local kids did.  He got to checking out what his kids were doing after school everyday and did not like what he found.  Things were not going well at work, and with his wife's family.  So they had a family meeting.  Decision was made to move to North Pole.  House was sold, furniture was sold, toys, extra clothes, everything they could not pack into two suitcases each was gotten ride of.  A few things (family hairlooms were put into storage at grandma's place).  Husband, Wife, four kids, and one dog, loaded into two ford vans and drove to North Pole.  They did not hurry, they camped their way up through Canada.  The kids loved it, and they saw a lot of Canada and things along the way.  Canada has some nice camp grounds all along the Alcan highway.  Kids were 13,12,9,and8, Mom and Dad drove the vans.  Upon arrival they stayed with our mutual friend and neighbor.  He got a job at a Truck/Heavy Equipment repair shop, She went to work at Fairbanks Memorial Hospital as a nurse.  After a month they bought the house two doors down from me.  Today his oldest two (girls) are in their fourth and third years of college at UAF (University of Alaska Fairbanks).  The third kid a son graduated high school last spring with an ASE certification to be an mechanic.  He went to work at a local dealership and they have convinced him to go to college, and they are helping pay for it.  Their youngest a daughter graduated high school early last month, and started at UAF this month.

The comment he has made to me constantly, for the last ten years.  It was the best thing they ever did, moving from Michigan to Alaska.  This is a great place to raise kids.  I agree, I also have a 17 year old son.  My son elected not to graduate last month so he can continue to play Hockey with the high school team.  He will start at UAF next fall.  Our two sons were inseperable for about 8 years.  Just in the last year since Eric (my neighbor's son) graduated have they gone their seperate ways.  During the time they were hanging out togeather I would take them during spring break in March out to a friends cabin and spend one week, snowmachining, hunting, ice fishing,and just generally having a good time.  The boys worked cutting and splitting firewood.  They also had to build and keep the fire going in the stove.  I taught them to cook on a barrel stove, and campfire.  After moving to Alaska none of the kids have been in any kind of trouble.  Oh forgot, the oldest got into trouble when she punched out a bully her senior year.  Both were sent home for three days, and the bully had an attitude adjustment after that.  Another thing to think about is that driving here is like driving was when I was a kid back in the 60s.  It's a good place for kids to begin driving.  Yes they drive on ice and snow for six months of the year, but I have had no problems with my son learning to drive.  We have a low population here in the North Pole, Fairbanks area. 
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Re: Hunting variety
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2007, 08:40:38 PM »
My mind moved here back in the sixties reading Jack O'Connor and Fred Bear stories.  The rest of me made it up in 99.  I will never leave.

Sourdough's info is right on. Some smaller hospitals are around,  Valdez has a new one.  Lots warmer than Fairbanks! 
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Re: Hunting variety
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2007, 05:22:10 PM »
We've got a hospital down here!!!(seward)  hahaha.  Runs of red, silver, king, pink, chum salmon (all of them)  moose, bear, goat, sheep hunting.  you can boat from here to go deer hunting,  also have fishing for rockfish, halibut, searun trout and dolly vadren, shark, nearby grayling. (many, many more in the ocean of course) some wolf, but none to hunt.  coyote on the west of the peninsula, plus the most beautiful place on earth. 

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Re: Hunting variety
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2007, 05:31:49 AM »
......  Lots warmer than Fairbanks! 
Yeah, but you can get by without a snow blower in Fairbanks.  Try that in Valdez!

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Re: Hunting variety
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2007, 09:31:13 AM »
    First of all, go the the local bookstore and get a copy of the "Milepost".  This is a comprehensive book on driving to Alaska, and driving around inside the state.  It covers all the towns and cities on the road system and the Marine highway.   It will tell you if there is a hospital in each town or city.  It will cover Valdez and beautiful Keystone Canyon, Seward and the Keni peninsula.  Homer the End Of The Road, Anchorage and the Beautiful Chugach mtns., or Fairbanks The Golden Heart City.  It will also give the population, what the local industry is, and the points of interest in each community.  But you have to remember it is written from the tourist industries point of view.  Everything in the book is on a positive note.  And every Alaskian feels he live in the best part of the state and will try and get you to feel most positive about their area.  Notice what I have said is slanted towards Fairbanks.  I live in North Pole, 18 miles south of Fairbanks.  There is positives and negatives to all points in Alaska.  It will be hard to find out the things you are asking without visiting or talking to people in the health care industry in the areas under consideration.

    What the "Milepost" won't give you is the negatives of any area.  Like that Seward and Valdez are often cut off and isolated due to avalanches or heavy snow fall.  Those avalanches also cut off Homer, Keni/Soldotna.  Ice storms, like the mid west is currently having is not too uncommon for Anchorage, or any other portion of the state.  Here in Fairbanks we sometimes have one once or twice a year.  Then again some years we don't have any ice storms.  Here in the Tanana valley it is not a big issue anyway because we all use studded tires and the area around North Pole and towards Fairbanks is flat.  No hills.  There is hills around Fairbanks Northeast, north, and west, but the folks that live there don't seem to have a problem.  The advantage of living in the hills is that it is always 10 to 20 degrees warmer in the winter. 

   
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Re: Hunting variety
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2007, 03:07:33 PM »
jrnsuz, I just picked up my copy of the milepost yesterday. Getting redy to make a move latter.
As sourdough said it has a lot of info. Dont know what your tax rate is where you live but with
tax mine came to $28.94 here in N. Cal.

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Re: Hunting variety
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2007, 06:24:41 PM »
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Yeah, but you can get by without a snow blower in Fairbanks.  Try that in Valdez!

Don't believe that junk!  We have only had 180+ of snow, 40" on the ground and 12-24 on the way tonight.  You could pay 30-40$ for a health club membership or live here and get healthy for FREE! ;D
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Re: Hunting variety
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2007, 06:57:21 AM »
sourdough, thanks for the reply and good intel. reason we have to wait is the wife's ex; he 's in PA, but won't let "his" kids leave MO. so, we wait for the youngest to graduate high school and dream big dreams. meantime we're looking, listening and planning.

corbanzo, that is exactly the info i was looking for (great photo). how's the small game and bird hunting? also, anybody on Kodiak? looks like it could be pleasant and more game variety than i expected.

thanks to all for the replies and keep 'em coming. we'll keep dreaming and learning.
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Re: Hunting variety
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2007, 07:58:51 AM »
Lots of spruce grouse and ptarmigan over here.  Over on the other side of the peninsula there are more dwarf spruce (black spruce) which is good habitat for them and also rabbits.  We dont have much in the way of rabbits though.  Grouse and ptamigan are what we mostly hunt, and lots of ground squirrels if you are into it. 

this year we are deifnitely keeping up with snow though...  12 feet in the last month.

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