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Offline tvc15

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Kroil
« on: January 20, 2007, 02:22:49 AM »
I read that a lot of people use this product in there barrel cleaning. Do you use it as a lubricant after cleaning or during the cleaning process?  TVC15

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Re: Kroil
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2007, 02:31:11 AM »
Kroil is a great product. I used it for years when I was turning wrenches for a living.
For gun cleaning I use Kroil in the bore after brushing and let the barrel set for an hour or so. I have no proof that Kroil helps the barrel clean easier but it sure seems to.
Every so often Midway runs a special on Kroil in the 8oz squeeze can

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Re: Kroil
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2007, 07:48:08 AM »
Kroil works great as a bore cleaner. I have used it for years. I have also mixed Kroil 50/50 with Hoppes #9 with good results. For really heavy copper fouling, a copper cutter type solvent like Shooters Choice is occasionally necessary. Kroil will get the crud out of a barrel.

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Re: Kroil
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2007, 08:14:01 AM »
As soon as possible after firing, I will swab the bore with Kroil.  It certainly keeps the crud loose and easy to clean when I can get to it.  I don't use it as a cleaning agent as such but I do use it for my short term lube.

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Re: Kroil
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2007, 08:37:47 AM »
It's an awfully thin oil which is good to penetrate so if you need lube NOW to reach something it does. 

I use it alot but honestly question the cleaning ability in a bore simply because other stuff seems to bring out dirtier patches. I've read bench rest shooters supposedly think it's the cat's meow but I think that is Kroil itself that states that.

I also use it on my motorcycle chain every few hundred miles which is a totally different subject but again the reason I do it is for the immeadiate lube NOW. I also mix it 50/50 with other stuff esp gun grease. My theory is the gun grease will get deeper into nooks and crannies for long term friction protection.

I was not very impressed on copper fouling I can tell you that much for sure.

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Re: Kroil
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2007, 05:42:31 AM »
I've used Kroil for about 6 months now. It dosen't do onything with copper. I mix some in with Hoppes 9 for general fouling. I also like to swab the barrel with it at the end of the cleaning session. I agree that it does not work as a stand alone cleaner because I've tried it and got dirty patchs with the Hoppes after the Kroil patches were clean.
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Re: Kroil
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2007, 05:53:51 AM »
Kroil is a lubricant/penetrant, not a powder/copper solvent.  As such it will penetrate under some typers of fouling and help lift it out with a brush or patch.  It really got a boost in use when the moly fad   started; it worked well to remove layers of moly in the bore and provide some corrosion protection for the moly-coated steel.  Many benchrest shooters who used moly bullets swore by Kroil, it wasn't just company advertising.

Is it good?  I prefer to use products designed for the purpose I want them for, so I use Butch's Bore Shine and Sweet's for most of my cleaning.  I do use Kroil for short term lubricating and often on the first passes through the bore with a brush when powder fouling is heavy.  Kroil does not errode a bronze brush like the more aggressive bore solvents do, but helps to loosen caked fouling.


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Re: Kroil
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2007, 06:07:05 AM »
tvc15.
Kr oil is not a lubricating oil it's a penetrating oil.
I don't know how it works for lifting copper but it's very good for lifting lead after the barrel is clean.
Just swab the bore with Kr and let it set for a while then follow with a dry tight fitting patch, it must be tight!
Repeat that till the lead is out then use a good gun oil to protect the barrel.
Any good penetrating oil will work but I like the Kr it just plain smells best ::)
I don't think I would mix Kr or anything else with any bore cleaner or mix different bore cleaners because of a chemical reaction that might damage the barrel.

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Re: Kroil
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2007, 02:48:12 PM »
Kano Laboratories MSDS sheet for Kroil:

Product Use:  Penetrant/Lubricant for Industrial Use.
Appearance and Odor: Slightly reddish liquid with a refreshing odor.
Incompatibility/Conditions to avoid:  Avoid.....ammonia.


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Re: Kroil
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2007, 03:32:32 PM »
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Kano Laboratories MSDS sheet for Kroil:

Product Use:  Penetrant/Lubricant for Industrial Use.
Appearance and Odor: Slightly reddish liquid with a refreshing odor.
Incompatibility/Conditions to avoid:  Avoid.....ammonia.

lonestar: could you provide a link or source for your information. The MSDS sheet that I could find for Kroil doesn't list "ammonia" as a condition to avoid, rather it lists "Stong Oxidizing Agents". Its been a while since I had chemistry, but a quick google tells me that ammonia appears to be a reducing agent not an oxidizing agent.  I'm not a chemist. Here's a link to a MSDS page for Kroilhttps://secure.cnchost.com/kanolabs.com/msds_html/Kroil_msds.htm. I  would sure like to know if the information that I have is wrong. Thank you.
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Re: Kroil
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2007, 03:46:30 PM »
Ok, I may have answered my own question I ofund this sheet that does list ammonia as something to avoid. Why isn't it on the other sheet?https://secure.cnchost.com/kanolabs.com/msds/kroil_liquid.pdfhttps://secure.cnchost.com/kanolabs.com/msds/kroil_liquid.pdf
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