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Offline Tulock

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Savage 99E in .243 win
« on: January 20, 2007, 08:11:42 AM »
Hi guys I'm new to the forum and I'm looking to buy a savage 99E with the serial B842294.  I just moved to Central Oregon and have wanted to reward my self with buying a nice rifle.  I have never owned a gun before although I've shot them and used to be pretty good at it when I was in scouts.  The gun looks pretty good it has a crack that has been repaired on the upper left side of the grip.  The rifling is good but needs abit of a cleaning.  It's got a price tag of 350 and I want to see if it can come down to around 300 cause of the crack.  We will see it never hurts to ask.  Since I'm new to these guns and have been out of shooting for awhile I would like to know if it's worth the price, what .243 is like as a caliber, and what the rifles are like in general.  It's got the rotary mag and it's factory drilled for a scope.  Thanks so much, Tyler

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Re: Savage 99E in .243 win
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2007, 09:52:43 AM »
$350 is not a bad price for a Model 99.
The stocks can be prone to cracking at the tang.
Hopefully the receiver has not been D&T'd
I would not hesitate to pay that for a good shooter Savage 99

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Re: Savage 99E in .243 win
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2007, 03:04:12 PM »
I bought a Savage Model 16 .243 for my son to get him interested in shooting & deer hunting. The .243 shoots just fine. He loves it. The recoil is next to nothing. I shoot 7mm Magnum in my Ruger and when I shoot his .243 it's pure pleasure! ;) Good luck!

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Re: Savage 99E in .243 win
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2007, 03:25:05 PM »
Unfortunately, your rifle is NOT... repeat... NOT a "pre-mil" (aka made prior to a serial number of one million).

Savage Model 99 rifles reached the one million serial number point in 1960 when Savage moved their manufacturing facilities from Chicapee Fall, MA. to Westfield, MA.

Your rifle, #B842294, was made in mid-1975.   I'd have to see the gun to be sure of it's value, but from your description, I'd say it's worth $350, but $300 is even better.

The .243 Winchester caliber is a .308 Winchester case necked down to .24 caliber.  The .243 (6mm) is a good antelope and deer cartridge if the heavier 95 & 100 grain bullets like the Nosler Partitions are used.  With lighter bullets (70 & 75 grain) made for varmint hunting, the .243 is an excellent long-range varmint cartridge.

While some here might disagree wth me, I don't feel the .243 should be used to hunt elk or larger game... I believe the a minimum elk rifle is a .270 Winchester or larger... preferably "larger".  My own elk, moose and bear rifle is a pre-'64 Model 70 Winchester "Alaskan" in .338 Winchester Magnum caliber.

The Model 99 rifle is normally very accurate... it's common to get .75 inch 3-shot groups at 100 yards.  It's the best lever action rifle ever made... enjoy it.


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Re: Savage 99E in .243 win
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2007, 06:10:18 PM »
Thanks guys I really appericiate the help with this rifle, I think .243 is a good round for me, I'm not a big guy to begin with so less recoil is a plus. 

Ron, I called the gun shop it's at and asked the guy when it was made before I read your post, he said it was made in the 50's.  From reading your posts on the subject it sounds like you really know what you are talking about, and I was wondering how to obtain year of manufacture info and also when Savage started making guns with out the rotary mag.  It doesn't make much of a difference to me what year it was made as long as it shoots well and is a sturdy rifle.  I would just like some bargaining power since I would like to get the rifle for less.  The way I see it the less I spend for the gun the more I'll have for ammo.  Tyler

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Re: Savage 99E in .243 win
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2007, 01:35:31 AM »
Unfortunately, your rifle is NOT... repeat... NOT a "pre-mil" (aka made prior to a serial number of one million).

OOOPs

Good point.. sorry

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Re: Savage 99E in .243 win
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2007, 04:01:01 PM »
The guy at the gun shop is looking ONLY at the rifle's serial number and is ignoring the LETTER in front of the serial number.  The "letter series" Model 99s began with the "A" series in 1969, the "B" series began in 1973, the "C" series began in 1976, the "D" series began in 1979, the "E" letter series in 1984 and so on.

The last rotary magazine Model 99, the Model 99E ("Economy") was introduced in 1960 and discontinued in 1984.  This model is NOT... repeat... NOT the same thing as the "E" LETTER SERIES Model 99 Savage rifles.  This model was truly an ECONOMY model and did NOT have cartridge counter on the left side of the receiver.  However, it was drilled & tapped for a scope, not for the tang sight.  The rotor is plated steel and the cocking indictor is gold plated.  It has a corrugated hard rubber (not "steel") butt-plate and the pistol grip does not have a "cap" like previous Model 99s.

The "C" model ("Clip Magazine") was introduced in 1965 and remained in production up until Savage quit making the Model 99.  The "C" model was the first major change to the Model 99 frame design in 66 years of production and remained the only model of the Model 99 rifle being made after 1984 until sometime in the late 1990's or very early 2000's when Model 99 production finally ceased (probably forever).

My records show a "G" Letter Series Model 99 available as late as 2002, but I am suspect of that series and wonder if that wasn't those Model 99s that were made of left over parts.

Some left over models and some rifles made of surplus parts were offered to gun dealers after production of the Model 99 ceased, but these were not actual production models, but rather rifles made up from unused parts... a very sad end to a magnificent rifle, without a doubt the BEST lever action American-made rifle ever produced.

While the "C" model is not the quality of the earlier Model 99s made prior to 1960, it's still a very fine hunting rifle.  As to what it's worth... that depends on how bad you want it, doesn't it?  After all, they aren't making them anymore.  I've seen some "C" models in excellent condition go for $500... but rarely any more than that.

As to the year of manufacture, look at the top of this forum for the "sticky" which the forum's moderator posted permanently.  It was something I posted here for all to use and tells you the serial numbers/Lever Boss Codes of various years of production of the Model 99.

However, the information I gave you is very accurate.

Good luck in your quest.    :)


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Re: Savage 99E in .243 win
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2007, 05:55:26 PM »
Cool, thanks for the info Ron, I passed on the rifle, I think the price was good for the gun but the ammo is not so I couldn't do it.  I don't like the idea of having a gun that I can only shoot once in awhile.  Tyler