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Offline McLernon

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Standard Open Sights on 22 Inch 45-70 Barrels
« on: January 26, 2007, 06:59:26 PM »
Anyone know what they are?? ;D
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Re: Standard Open Sights on 22 Inch 45-70 Barrels
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2007, 07:01:49 PM »
Right where they're shown on H&R's web site. ;)

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http://hr1871.com/Firearms/Rifles/youth.aspx

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Re: Standard Open Sights on 22 Inch 45-70 Barrels
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2007, 07:24:51 PM »
Thanks Quick. I'm thinking that the sights on the new 45LC are better. Am I right ;D

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Re: Standard Open Sights on 22 Inch 45-70 Barrels
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2007, 08:00:45 PM »
  The open sights on my new 500 Smith are plastic and came right off.. Waiting on a scope base now but will be shopping for rings and a scope this weekend. The scope mount plug screws look like plastic also and I tried to screw them into the sight mounting holes to fill them but they don't seem to want to go in, probably lock tight in them. Anyone know the screw size so I could get some steel plug screws?  Maybe they are standard like on most US guns, I might have some somewhere?
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Re: Standard Open Sights on 22 Inch 45-70 Barrels
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2007, 08:19:16 PM »
Mc, the current iron sights are reported to be their old proprietary sights which are those shown on the one in the H&R pic, they were using plastic sights and Williams WGOS and now have gone back to the old style like this, the elevator adjustment screw is loose on it since it's not installed.



None of those are like the carbine sights, it's a different style with a stepped leaf elevator, I believe.

Sight mount screws on my .500S&W are 6-48 as near as I can tell, they should be the same as the scope mount holes.

Tim



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Re: Standard Open Sights on 22 Inch 45-70 Barrels
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2007, 10:36:31 PM »
These are the same sights as on the Tracker Barrels.  One Ragged Hole makes a kit fro $25 that comes with 2 blades of different size holes for these sights.  Nearly turns it into a peep sight.  I have found that I need to raise the rear sight quite a bit to get sighted in.  If I take some off the front blade then I wouldn't have to raise the rear sight so high...RIGHT??

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Re: Standard Open Sights on 22 Inch 45-70 Barrels
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2007, 01:19:48 AM »
thats correct    by lowering the front sight you will raise the point of aim        but go slow and remove very little at a time     it doesn't take as much as you might think.    the method used by the muzzleloader shooters is     "file a little, shoot a lot "
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Re: Standard Open Sights on 22 Inch 45-70 Barrels
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2007, 02:51:11 AM »
since they have gone back to their older sights, does this mean that a WGOS will not fit?  Will the bead front sight the that they have been using fit?  I am looking to buy one of these rifles today and I don't expect that I will really like that rear sight and front blade...
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Re: Standard Open Sights on 22 Inch 45-70 Barrels
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2007, 07:41:49 AM »
I think the older proprietory H&R sights with the blade front sight were great, stong, easy to adjust, and held there set position great. They were made of steel and probably more expensive to produce with more parts. If you can find a gun with a set try them I think you will be pleasantly surprised. I am sure H&R went to newer sights for the simple reason of economics, not because they work better, it does seem they do not make changes to better the product but to save money, usually lessening the quality until there is such an uproar something has to give, as the plastic sight fiasco. So, to get off my soapbox, try an older set of sights, you may like them. The newer aluminum Williams sights are nice but they sit very high and I feel the front sight bead is quite delicate and am a bit worried of bending or breaking the bead off when "bushwacking" through the thick stuff....<><.... :)
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Re: Standard Open Sights on 22 Inch 45-70 Barrels
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2007, 12:23:26 PM »
Any one off a fiber optic type sight for them?
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Re: Standard Open Sights on 22 Inch 45-70 Barrels
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2007, 12:31:03 PM »
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Re: Standard Open Sights on 22 Inch 45-70 Barrels
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2007, 03:28:12 PM »
"... a bit worried of bending or breaking the bead off when "bushwacking" through the thick stuff....<><.... "

If you would quit using your rifle for a machete... ;)

I really like the semi-buckhorn/bead sights that came on my 44 mag handi--a brass bead would be better but a dab of white paint works good too.
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Re: Standard Open Sights on 22 Inch 45-70 Barrels
« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2007, 09:58:24 AM »
Quote from: cheatermk3 on January 27, 2007, 03:28:12 PM
I really like the semi-buckhorn/bead sights that came on my 44 mag handi--a brass bead would be better but a dab of white paint works good too.

This "semi-buckhorn/bead" is what I've halfway got on my new 45-70.  The rear is the Williams, but the front sight is the blocky H&R front sight, which is difficult to get a good sight picture with.  I have contacted H&R customer service, but if they no longer have this front sight, what is my next best alternative?

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Re: Standard Open Sights on 22 Inch 45-70 Barrels
« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2007, 01:10:24 PM »
Firesights, see the FAQs. ;)

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Re: Standard Open Sights on 22 Inch 45-70 Barrels
« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2007, 02:44:17 PM »
My latest 45/70 is a 2007 manufacture judging by the serial number and it has the aluminum sights such as pictured in Tim's posting.They are quite sturdy and accurate to boot.I don't see how in any normal hunting situation one might break them off.

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