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Re: Please explain your "cut and run" and "choose to lose" jargon
« Reply #30 on: January 31, 2007, 05:12:10 PM »
Opulent Cave??? :D  I was impressed when Iraqi Govt officials held a press conference after they whacked 250 hajis and pointedly said that there were many nationalities among the dead, and named countries of origin. Then the said there were Shiites and Sunnis among the dead. Now these cats were intent on attacking a shiite celebration. This indicates to me that this is not a civil war. This is the same old terrorists using new tactics. Its funny how when American pundits started talking about civil war the bad guys got busy makin it look like a civil war. So they attack shiites and make it look like sinnis did it, then they attack sunnis and act like shiites did it. Now the Iraqi govt is pointing this fact out. I like it and hope it continues and grows in scale. I would love nothing better than to read a report of 3500 hostiles rubbed out in one engagement.    ERIC

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Re: Please explain your "cut and run" and "choose to lose" jargon
« Reply #31 on: February 01, 2007, 01:43:52 AM »
I have been reading this thread for some times now.
FIRST--I think we did what we did without much thinking. I would like too know the REAL reasons.
That said---some times you have to walk the walk after talking the talk--or--put up or shut-up.
The concern that I have are that the folks that are forced too put up are not the boys that talk the talk. They got others that they shove in, in their place. I dislike that, well, a whole bunch.
Now, you can cut your losses--the old good money after bad saying in a poker game--or you can stay the course.
Now if you stay the course you better be sure you are right--the old saying that a man in the right can overcome if he keeps on coming rings a bell--but I am not sure that we are right.
I agree that there are consequences to backing down in a fight.
I keep going back to past experiences and see the results of a bad fight.
I think this is a bad fight and nothing will change if we stay there 100 years--I said nothing will change, well, except the name of the dictator.
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Re: Please explain your "cut and run" and "choose to lose" jargon
« Reply #32 on: February 01, 2007, 02:21:49 AM »
  Back to the original question:

  What is meant by  " Cut and run"...    and " Choose to Lose " ?

   1) Cut and run...when one is involved in a fight, to turn tail and run when the going gets tough..
       
     ( There USED to be an old saying; " When the going gets tough, the tough get going !"...wonder what ever happened to that ?)

  2)  Choose to lose...when someone is involved in a tough battle, to choose to leave and turn the field over to the enemy...to work THEIR will..whatever that may be..

    I am surprised that those terms needed definition..since they are self-explanatory..Duh !


   NOTE:  "Newspeak" doesn't call it "cut and run" or "choose to lose"...they  call it "redeployment"....3 coequal statements;
 one is just a bit more deceptive than the others...
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Re: Please explain your "cut and run" and "choose to lose" jargon
« Reply #33 on: February 01, 2007, 02:47:06 AM »
Go back to Genesis and read about Abraham, Sara, and Hagar. Sara was the one that told Abraham to go to Hagar and have a child, not God. God had his own plans for Abraham. An angel spoke to Hagar after she was driven away from there and told her that she would have a son and his name would be Ishmael. The muslims are descendents of him. The angel also said that he and his seed would be filled with torment, etc. I believe it's in the 16th chapter. Read it. POWDERMAN.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Please explain your "cut and run" and "choose to lose" jargon
« Reply #34 on: February 01, 2007, 02:59:37 PM »
 Since Ishmael is the progenitor of the Arabs, what God had to say about him prophetically, should be of interest to us !
 In Gen 16:12  God says:" And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren."
  In Gen 17:16-21.  Although God said that Ishmael will father many nations; His (God's) covenant is to be established with Isaac, father of the Jews.
  Since Ishmael was cut out of the will..he and his have been filled with hate ever since..
  Note in 16:12..It doesn't say that his hand will only be against Israel..nooo..it says his hand will be against every man..pertinent information...
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Re: Please explain your "cut and run" and "choose to lose" jargon
« Reply #35 on: February 01, 2007, 03:14:16 PM »
IRONGLOW. Thanks. I was getting ready for work when I posted this morning and didn't have time to copy it all down. I heard a pastor named  Hagee preaching on this Sunday night, believe he's from Texas. I was so intrigued that I looked it up and re read it myself. Sure exdplains a lot, doesn't it???? POWDERMAN.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Please explain your "cut and run" and "choose to lose" jargon
« Reply #36 on: February 01, 2007, 05:19:29 PM »
That really explains alot.
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Re: Please explain your "cut and run" and "choose to lose" jargon
« Reply #37 on: February 02, 2007, 03:51:56 AM »
Two points.  First, yeah, we have infomation in scripture telling us that the hatred in that society goes back to its foundations and will run until the Lord returns.  But, while we know that, we can't abandon the region to their internal hatreds because, as scripture also says, it is directed at ALL peoples.  We can't simply leave them alone and be left alone, won't work.  Nothing can totally stop a people who are determined to kill everyone else, is there?

Second, ref Jon's excellant tomb, one correction I think.  The reason Bush "can't get many allies to help" really isn't because they disagree about the threat or what has to be done to minimise it.  Rather, those other countries are so poor due to their struggling socialistic economies they can't afford to send troops. 

Any disruption of oil would be devastating to them, so they live in great fear of that.  Nor, at risk of harming their over-inflated self image (think the arrogant but impoverished Freench and Germans and Russians, Dutch, etc, here) can they let us pay for them to play. 

Thus, in jealousy, the worlds democrat/socialist leaders preen and posture about how the "evil" US is doing something in the M.E. they simply can't afford to do.  While their economies teeter on the brink of diaster, they cringe before the Islamics and pray for "peace in our time.".  Again. 

So, it isn't because they disagree that holds the other countries back from helping us over there, its a fear of economic losses they aren't willing to risk.  They do like their mandated cradle to the grave comforts, even if it ruins life for their grandkids.
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Re: Please explain your "cut and run" and "choose to lose" jargon
« Reply #38 on: February 02, 2007, 03:15:22 PM »
WINCHESTER. Sounds to me like you are saying the other countries are just sucking up to the islamists.  ;D ;D. I get your point, but giving in to these Godless scum only gives them strength. In a way, we are our brothers keeper. We do more because we can. We have more of everything than any nation on earth. I feel that is because we help others in need. If we turned our back on all of the evil in this world I believe we would be in big trouble. I don't believe that America can turn a blind eye to all of the hunger and genocide in this world. Evil is of satan and must be fought wherever it is found. If it weren't for pressure from the PC folks, there would be no palestinian problem, they would cease to exist. There will come a day when the Israel of old will rear up and destroy her enemies, and say to heck with world opinion. I for one, anxiously await that day. Israel is Gods chosen people, but I'm not real sure that God is happy with them. They've given up much of the lands that God gave them, they've relaxed their laws on homosexuals, they have just appointed an islamic arab to their govorning body. I doubt God is happy with these things, just my opinion. POWDERMAN.  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegovernor.cfm