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Offline Dusty Miller

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44 mag ammo
« on: February 21, 2007, 03:41:32 PM »
What's a good self-defense ammo for the 44 mag, something that is much less likely to overpenetrate than the 240 gr. full tilt boogie loads.
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Re: 44 mag ammo
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2007, 04:12:12 PM »
I've got 200 gr JHP's loaded at 1100fps for my 44 Special just for that purpose.  If your looking for a factory load here's a 180 gr XTP at 1250 fps loaded in a 44 Special:
http://www.cnccartridge.com/44.htm
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Re: 44 mag ammo
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2007, 06:30:03 AM »
Dusty...,

The most "urban-safe" full-power factory load I've found is the plain-jane Remington 180-grain jhp, catalog #R44MG5.

I carry it in my 4-inch 629 Mountain Gun while I'm on duty as a deputy sheriff and it's easier to control under rapid fire than the heavier 240-grain-plus loads some folks use. I use the flat-shooting Sierra, XTP and Federal 180-grain jhp .44 Magnums for whitetail deer-hunting and get full body penetration on broadside shots. However, I don't recommend you or anyone else using the 180-grain Remington on deer as it has consistently expanded too quickly and fragments a bit instead of driving all the way out of the deer's far side. To be sure, while the Sierra 180 and other 180-grain .44 Magnum jhp's completely wreck the animals' lungs and heart area, the quick expansion and fragmenting of the Remington 180 turns the deer's heart/lung area into a puree but doesn't exit the animal's chest cavity as I'd prefer in a hunting scenario.

Because of that, I figured it'd make a pretty damn good load for defensive use on two-legged homicidal assailants. I've seen the autopsy results of two felons who were shot by lawfully-armed citizen defensive shooters with 180-grain .44 Magnum jhp's, and there's not much difference in the terminal effect between a 200-pound whitetail and a 200-pound felon. Be advised also that the felons don't withstand the impact nearly as well as a deer does.

I have tested the 180-grain Remington jhp in calibrated 10% ordnance gelatin at our lab and it penetrates through 4 layers of cottom denim (replicating heavy clothing) and into the gel around 13.5-inches with a recovered expanded bullet diameter of .81 caliber or a bit more. It is a fearsome anti-personnel load without nearly so much danger of excessive penetration, if that's what you're looking for. It's sure my choice after 30 years of being a cop in a metro area.

Hope this helps.

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Re: 44 mag ammo
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2007, 03:21:05 PM »
Yeah, I have some 180s loaded up but I'm start'n to shy away from reloads for SD.  How about the 165 gr. Corbon with a claimed velocity of 1300 fps (barrel length unknown)?
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Re: 44 mag ammo
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2007, 05:14:12 AM »
If I were using my 44 Mag for home protection I would down load some 240  gr bullets to 1250 FPS. I would think that some one would have them out at that FPS also.

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Re: 44 mag ammo
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2007, 08:59:38 PM »
I find the Speer Short Barrel 200 grain Gold Dot Hollow Points to be a mild .44 magnum load out of my 6-1/2" S&W 628 ported Classic. Even more mild, is the CCI Blazer .44 Special 200 grain Gold Dot Hollow points.

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