Author Topic: What magnification for 22 Hornet. (Read 2101 times)

stiga · « **on:** February 23, 2007, 03:09:03 PM »

Hi there. Am eagarly awaiting my first Handi rifle. A 22 Hornet. I will be using it for everyting from small game, to fox. And som crow hunting. What kind of scope, and magnification have you guys found useful.

Stig.

DalesCarpentry · « **Reply #1 on:** February 23, 2007, 03:18:16 PM »

I would think a 3x9x40 Nikon or a 3x9 Bushnell Banner would be a fine match.

stiga · « **Reply #2 on:** February 23, 2007, 03:29:05 PM »

I see on this forum, and other forums in USA that you all like the different kinds of Bushnell scopes. Here in Norway, everybody "has" to have either a Zeiss or some other kind of european scope. So the question is; are these less costly scopes worth what you pay for them?

Stig.

ONE HOLE 4570 · « **Reply #3 on:** February 23, 2007, 03:41:22 PM »

4-12 ao & yes they work well the banners

DalesCarpentry · « **Reply #4 on:** February 23, 2007, 03:49:07 PM »

This is just my opion but I do not think you have to pay $800.00 for a good scope. I see a couple scopes in the $600.00 range I would love to have but I could never afford it and I know that you can buy a scope for a couple hunderd bucks and be happy with it for the rest of your life.

McLernon · « **Reply #5 on:** February 23, 2007, 04:26:49 PM »

There are good in between scopes like the Bushnell Elite 3200's that should be considered as they were Bausch& Lombe formerly

Mc

cheatermk3 · « **Reply #6 on:** February 23, 2007, 05:41:53 PM »

I have a 3-9 VXII Leupold on my 22Jet. I have used this outfit on prarie dogs and have no trouble seeing and hitting them at 175 yds. Of course, PD hunting is most often done on fair weather days but I believe that the mid-range $$ scopes are plenty good enuff for a small CF 22 like the Hornet, Jet, Bee, etc. After all 175 is about it for the Hornet, no?

stiga · « **Reply #7 on:** February 23, 2007, 05:47:09 PM »

Thank you for your replies

Think i might try to find a used Bushnell 3200 scope, or a Banner. Realy looking forward to getting my new Handi rifle. Must strart handloading

Stig

By the way, a decent Zeiss costs about 2000$ her in Norway

DalesCarpentry · « **Reply #8 on:** February 23, 2007, 05:59:57 PM »

Well I think they start at about $1000.00 here and even if they were the best in the world I will never own one unless I hit the lotery. Then I might think about spending that kind of money on a scope. Also if I could afford that type of scope I probably would not be putting it on a Handi I could afford any gun I wanted.

Quote from: stiga on February 23, 2007, 05:47:09 PM

Thank you for your replies Think i might try to find a used Bushnell 3200 scope, or a Banner. Realy looking forward to getting my new Handi rifle. Must strart handloading

Stig

By the way, a decent Zeiss costs about 2000$ her in Norway

quickdtoo · « **Reply #9 on:** February 23, 2007, 06:05:34 PM »

Welcome aboard officially, Stiga! Jon was selling the Ziess Conquest 3-9x40 for $400 at The Optic Zone if anyone is looking for one, dunno if he still has em for that, but it's worth checking, he's a GBO sponsor, hard to beat his prices and service!

Tim

http://theopticzone.com/

McLernon · « **Reply #10 on:** February 23, 2007, 06:12:44 PM »

The only problem with the 3X9's is the thick duplex reticles. I like the reticles fine.

Mc

tuxdad · « **Reply #11 on:** February 23, 2007, 07:34:17 PM »

I hate to be an oddball, but I've got a 6x18x50 on mine with mildots, and shoots great...

Tux

quickdtoo · « **Reply #12 on:** February 23, 2007, 07:35:25 PM »

FWIW, I have a Simmons ATV 4.5-14x40 on mine, but the only thing I shoot is paper....so far.

Tim

pascalp · « **Reply #13 on:** February 23, 2007, 11:50:33 PM »

The Burris compact A/R 4-12x32 is fine with target turret, fine duplex, AO (from 7yards if you need to shoot near your feet).
Leupold 3-9x33 Rimfire, fine duplex, short range AO is fine too. I added stoney point turret on mine.

But, you said "fox". For what I know, they aren't easy and didn't appear in great light, you may need a light gatherer, 40~50 objective, good quality. A Meopta 7x50 will be fine (more light mean using an amplifier, sold mine because no AO). On the tactical way the Meopta 4-16x44 is really good, you may have use/fun of target turret and mildot for long range (22 hornet speaking) varminting.

You will notice, no high magnification level but high optical, image quality are there.

Yes, high dollars/euros european scopes worth the money. Try to look thru Meopta or IOR, they cost less than Swaro or S&B but are great, if not too much for your use. The difference with low priced and lower quality is in your pleasure to use them (specially, each time conditions became difficult).

My Nef, 22Hornet
Old version, with Meopta 7x50.

Now, with Burris Compact R/A

just bill · « **Reply #14 on:** February 24, 2007, 02:57:32 AM »

I have a Bushnell Banner 4-12x40 ao on my Hornet.

Pro's - I like the size,it's fairly compact and don't consider a Hornet a bench gun but rather a walking gun. The size allows good ballance. It holds zero well, is cost effective and durable. Price fits a handi well as I don't pay more for a scope than a rifle normally. I don't like a big long scope on a hornet or rim mag and this scope is pretty compact.

Cons - Not very bright. Contrast is so,so. Not fully multi coated (although in that price range none are). Dial up turrets are decent quality but not great. Often wish I had a variable to 14 power or 16 power. No come up reticle. I have a Burris Fullfield II 4.5-14x42 on a CZ rim mag 17hmr, the differance in brightness,contrast,eye releif, magnification & quality are very noticeable..........but so is the price.

For fully multi coated brighter scopes with better contrast at a decent value Simmons & Swift are options but are over twice the cost of a Banner. For value scopes some here also like the BSA. I know AJ is mounting a BSA 16V with mil dot on his new Hornet and has several of them on Handis. No complaints.

ooops, one more. The Nikon Buckmasters are very good scopes like the Burris Fullfield II's in that price range. While I personally trust and pick Banners in that price range. They are not in the same league as the Burris Fullfield II's or Nikon Buckmasters but again they cost much less. I would put a Burris up against any European scope.

mattparliament · « **Reply #15 on:** February 24, 2007, 04:18:05 AM »

Call me goofy but here's the one I have:

http://www.natchezss.com/brand.cfm?contentID=productList&brand=SN&mfgGroup=472&subgroup=6756

It's the 6-24x50 model. I love it for varmint shooting. The optics are really great in all magnification levels. I realize this is Simmons's lower line but there is zero recoil with that hornet.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #16 on:** February 24, 2007, 05:21:13 AM »

Quote from: just bill on February 24, 2007, 02:57:32 AM

I have a Bushnell Banner 4-12x40 ao on my Hornet.

Cons - Not fully multi coated (although in that price range none are).

That's not true.

http://muelleroptics.com/products/MAPV451440S.html

http://www.mizzoumuleguns.com/id12.html

aulrich · « **Reply #17 on:** February 24, 2007, 05:55:01 AM »

I have just put a 3-9 banner on mine it has the circle-x reticle, I was thinking the circle could help them get on target faster when they are coyote hunting and the crosshairs look fine enough for gophers. Also since it's a trainer for my boys I wanted something without AO to keep it simpler. Magnification is a little low for gophers but should match thier shooting skill for a while.

I find the brightness argument odd, personally I have never had one of my baners be too dim to shoot in legal (local rules for here are 30 min before and after sunrise and sunset) light.

dw06 · « **Reply #18 on:** February 24, 2007, 06:50:45 AM »

I like a 2-7 on my hornets,I put a redfield widefield on mine many years ago and its a good match for the hornet.Makes it nice for a walkabout rifl which mine is,and on 2 power the widefield makes it nice for close range shooting.

stiga · « **Reply #19 on:** February 24, 2007, 09:33:33 AM »

Nice welcome, and lots of replies

Thank you all. Will also be hunting grouse in the mountains, and a grouses head is a pretty small target at 100 meters. Thing i am going for a little bit more magnification than 9. Maybe 14.

Stig

quickdtoo · « **Reply #20 on:** February 24, 2007, 10:12:18 AM »

Stig, did ya get my email?? Didn't get a response, maybe it didn't make it due to the attachments.

Tim

stiga · « **Reply #21 on:** February 24, 2007, 11:28:53 AM »

No, I got your email. Thanks a bunch. Lots of interesting reading. Suddenly realised that I need a few more barrels

The article on the 500 S&W fired up my imagination

In a Handi Rifle, this might even be leagal for big game hunting her in Norway. So thanks again

Stig

myarmor · « **Reply #22 on:** February 24, 2007, 11:40:39 AM »

I wish I could check these out in person, but from the looks of it and everything I hear they are excellent optics.
Plus I believe it would be an excellent fit for a 22 Hornet. Light weight enough and an AO.
http://theopticzone.com/detail.aspx?ID=4176

-Aaron