Author Topic: What would you like in a scope? (Read 1548 times)

lucky guy · « **on:** February 23, 2007, 07:22:45 PM »

Is there anything in a scope that you'd like to see someone make that's not out there?

mattinPA · « **Reply #1 on:** February 24, 2007, 04:35:27 AM »

I would like to see a level in side the scope (target scope)

this would be nice to have for shooting in bench rest

matt

eye shot · « **Reply #2 on:** February 24, 2007, 02:13:44 PM »

I would like to see a scope with two or three adjustable ballistic range makes for us handloaders.

victorcharlie · « **Reply #3 on:** February 24, 2007, 04:41:22 PM »

Quote from: eye shot on February 24, 2007, 02:13:44 PM

I would like to see a scope with two or three adjustable ballistic range makes for us handloaders.

Have a look at the Kahles......but be prepared to dig deep in your pocket.....

One of the Kahles have 4 "rings" for lack of a better word, on the elevation adjustment which allows the cross hairs to be zeroed, then the first bdc zeroed etc.......

kyelkhunter3006 · « **Reply #4 on:** February 25, 2007, 05:01:25 AM »

I would like to have a quality fixed power scope with a ballistic reticle and a rainguard coating on the lense, matte finish, less than 12" long, less than 12 oz, with a 35-40mm lense. 4" of eye relief. Hey Bushnell are you listening?

Or Weaver, or Sighton, or Nikon??

Cement Man · « **Reply #5 on:** February 25, 2007, 08:20:01 AM »

What kyelkhunter3006 said! in 4X & 6X

kyelkhunter3006 · « **Reply #6 on:** February 25, 2007, 09:31:48 AM »

Amen!

merhunts · « **Reply #7 on:** June 27, 2007, 06:12:11 PM »

I Would like to see a scope with a built-in range finder and digital cross hairs that automatically adjust to the right place inside the scope for that range. Of course you would have to input your rifle make and bullet info. Basically you would put your gun up, fire, and hit what you shoot at every time.

PS... Somebody shake me and wake me up I'm dreaming.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #8 on:** June 27, 2007, 06:33:03 PM »

The Bushnell Yardage Pro riflescope is about as close to that as you'll get for now, I think.

Tim

http://bushnell.com/general/rangefinders_yardagepro.cfm?section=Hunting

http://theopticzone.com/detail.aspx?ID=4551

Catfish · « **Reply #9 on:** June 28, 2007, 05:33:19 AM »

For those of you wanting a ballistic matched radical they can be had, but remember they only work for 1 bullet at one velocity. The ballistic charts, at least those in the Sierra manual, are very close, but you must know the velocity of your bullet, chronograph them. I used Sierra`s data to change my zero from 200 to 500 yrds. and the center of my group was 1 1/2 in. low, close enough for any game at 500 yrds. It takes a little longer than matched raticals, but you usually have alittle time on those 500 yrd. shots.

deltecs · « **Reply #10 on:** June 28, 2007, 06:54:38 PM »

I'd be completely satisfied with a Leupold 2.5 fixed power 1" tube with 35 mm or larger objective aperture with fully coated optics of the Vari X-III's. The reticule must be a heavy duplex or flat post with a level cross hair at the top of the post. Eye relief at least 4". This would suffice for all my hunting needs at any practical hunting range.

Grumulkin · « **Reply #11 on:** July 02, 2007, 01:05:55 AM »

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I Would like to see a scope with a built-in range finder and digital cross hairs that automatically adjust to the right place inside the scope for that range. Of course you would have to input your rifle make and bullet info. Basically you would put your gun up, fire, and hit what you shoot at every time.

Where have you been man! It's already available with the additional feature of a built in digital camera that records your kill shot. Of course, they're big and bulky and look dumb. Until the design is refined a bit, I don't want one.

SDS-GEN · « **Reply #12 on:** July 02, 2007, 05:24:49 AM »

I want for nothing as far as scopes are concerned. The scopes in today's market provide everything I need. Waterproof, fog-proof, wide choice of reticles, water-shedding coatings, what else does a shooter need? A smaller price tag maybe?

Dave in WV · « **Reply #13 on:** July 08, 2007, 09:27:39 AM »

A choice of thicker reticles and no extra charge for them out of the box. Are you listening Leupold ?

Their post & duplex reticle is great. For a price you can get it, AFTER sending your scope back.

SDS-GEN · « **Reply #14 on:** July 08, 2007, 10:14:45 AM »

Any reticle should be available in leupold scopes, you may need to have your supplier order it and it may cost more. But it should be available in a new scope without sending in for the factory to replace.

Prebanpaul · « **Reply #15 on:** July 10, 2007, 05:07:27 PM »

MATT IN PA

THEY HAVE THIS SCOPE OUT THERE. ITS MADE BY SPRINGFIELD. THE SCOPES ARE VERY VERY WELL MADE AND HAVE A LEVEL BUILT ON THE INSIDE OF THE SCOPE.

PartsMan · « **Reply #16 on:** July 16, 2007, 08:18:06 AM »

Quote from: kyelkhunter3006 on February 25, 2007, 05:01:25 AM

I would like to have a quality fixed power scope with a ballistic reticle and a rainguard coating on the lense, matte finish, less than 12" long, less than 12 oz, with a 35-40mm lense. 4" of eye relief. Hey Bushnell are you listening? Or Weaver, or Sighton, or Nikon??

Sounds good to me.

30-06man · « **Reply #17 on:** July 20, 2007, 12:25:09 PM »

illuminated redical that has the bdc. rangefinder. and lightweight under $400

merhunts · « **Reply #18 on:** July 21, 2007, 08:25:18 AM »

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Where have you been man! It's already available with the additional feature of a built in digital camera that records your kill shot. Of course, they're big and bulky and look dumb. Until the design is refined a bit, I don't want one.

I don't think you read me post correctly, they don't make what I want. I don't know if they ever will.
Yes those do have range finders in them, but I still have to know the ballistics of the bullet I'm shooting and aim high or low to hit my target.
What I am talking about is the cross-hairs move on their own so I don't have to aim high or low, or adjust anything.
By the time I read the range the cross-hairs have already set to the correct place. Actually I wouldn't even have to know the range.
All I would have to do is put the cross-hairs where I want the bullet to hit and pull the trigger, no matter if it is 10 yards or 1000 yards.
Now that to me would be the ultimate scope.

30-06man · « **Reply #19 on:** July 21, 2007, 10:53:51 AM »

so like you mount the scope and it auto adjust to the range you are shooting and when you first get it you don't have to bore site or site in all you have to do is mount it and it auto adjust to the point its most accurate at i would guess you would have to shoot to make it auto aujust and the cross hairs go where the bullet hit and its locked in on that point so you don't have to manualy sight it in is that what you are saying??

30-06man · « **Reply #20 on:** July 21, 2007, 10:58:14 AM »

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Where have you been man! It's already available with the additional feature of a built in digital camera that records your kill shot. Of course, they're big and bulky and look dumb. Until the design is refined a bit, I don't want one.

The camera is a option for all scopes with the threads inside of the eyepiece. you screw it into the eye peice and you look through the little opening to see you cross hairs and put it on the game. its $600 for the camera and i don't think its worth it. it will fit on any scope with the right size and the right piece.

merhunts · « **Reply #21 on:** July 21, 2007, 05:17:21 PM »

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so like you mount the scope and it auto adjust to the range you are shooting and when you first get it you don't have to bore site or site in all you have to do is mount it and it auto adjust to the point its most accurate at i would guess you would have to shoot to make it auto adjust and the cross hairs go where the bullet hit and its locked in on that point so you don't have to manually sight it in is that what you are saying??

Yes I would have to sight it in. I would have to input the ballistic information of the bullet that I am shooting into the scope, then sight it in. Once this is done, the scope will know where to move the cross hairs to make the bullet hit the target. The information that I would have put into the scope would have to be Muzzle Velocity, Bullet Weight, Bullet type, Powder Weight, Powder type, Etc. The same Info I would use for reloading to create a ballistic report.

Once imputed, and sighted in at a certain range, Lets say 100 yards, than the scope would know the rest of the ranges by using the information that I imputed in the beginning.

Now I could hope for a scope with ballistic mil-dots, or a scope that tell me the yardage and then I aim high accordingly, or a scope that takes a picture as soon as it feel recoil, But I can already get all of these.

My goal was to hope for a scope that take all the guess work out of shooting long rang targets.

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The camera is a option for all scopes with the threads inside of the eyepiece. you screw it into the eye piece and you look through the little opening to see you cross hairs and put it on the game. its $600 for the camera and i don't think its worth it. it will fit on any scope with the right size and the right piece.

Yes a camera would be a nice addition to this scope. Or better yet a video camera.

Basically once the scope was set up for my gun and bullet there would be no guessing on how high to aim at my target.

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Is there anything in a scope that you'd like to see someone make that's not out there?

This is the original question asked. Notice the last four words of the question. He is asking us to say what we would like in a scope that is not out there.
In other word something that is not presently made by any company.

Most of you guy's are wishing for something that already exist. Dream a little and come up with something Extravagant.

30-06man · « **Reply #22 on:** July 21, 2007, 06:51:11 PM »

if the cross hairs move it wouldn't have anything to do with the bullet. the way the bullet flies is the directions you point it in. if the cross hairs moved it would have no effect on where the bullet hit. you would have to do it the same where it has been done. so basically the cross hairs can't move where the bullet hits it all depends on how you the shooter holds the gun. what your saying is something like a fantasy that will never come true. the cross hairs only tell you where the bullets going to hit so you as the shooter have to move the cross hairs where you want the bullet to hit. the cross hairs can't move the bullet. its not possible. as far as putting the bullet and gun info into the scope that would work but that would be very expensive and i don't think there would be a market for it. they have range finding scopes but there is no input where you can put bullet/rifle info. and they have the bdc retical thing and you have to site in manualy on all the yardage areas. it would be too hard for a scope company to make it for that special type of gun. they might would offer it as a custom option way in the future. but i do know of a scope made for a marlin lever action and you have to use the hornday lever revoultion ammo for it. they see it in cableas and you have to get if for the specific calber. its not efficatiant so i don't think it will ever happen. i wish they would make something like that. its not going to happen. it would be simpler to stick with what they have and they are about to the point where they won't be able to make a scope any more expencive the average hunter cannot afford something like the range finding scopes for $2000-3000. most won't spend as much as $1000. like i said it would be offerd as an custom opition. that its even if they go that far making scopes.

30-06man · « **Reply #23 on:** July 21, 2007, 06:57:52 PM »

(what you said)" Once this is done, the scope will know where to move the cross hairs to make the bullet hit the target. The information that I would have put into the scope would have to be Muzzle Velocity, Bullet Weight, Bullet type, Powder Weight, Powder type, Etc. The same Info I would use for reloading to create a ballistic report. "

they can't make a gun that shoots the same the scope can't move the gun barrel or bullet making that impossible. the bullets aren't all the same so the scope would have to be made for that bullet basically its not going to happen. you can't make the exact bullet they all have differentt weight. they have differentt info. so the bullet info won't be the same from bullet to bullet it varies from each cartage bullet, etc

merhunts · « **Reply #24 on:** July 21, 2007, 09:16:59 PM »

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if the cross hairs move it wouldn't have anything to do with the bullet. the way the bullet flies is the directions you point it in. if the cross hairs moved it would have no effect on where the bullet hit. you would have to do it the same where it has been done. so basically the cross hairs can't move where the bullet hits it all depends on how you the shooter holds the gun. what your saying is something like a fantasy that will never come true. the cross hairs only tell you where the bullets going to hit so you as the shooter have to move the cross hairs where you want the bullet to hit. the cross hairs can't move the bullet. its not possible. as far as putting the bullet and gun info into the scope that would work but that would be very expensive and i don't think there would be a market for it. they have range finding scopes but there is no input where you can put bullet/rifle info. and they have the bdc retical thing and you have to site in manualy on all the yardage areas. it would be too hard for a scope company to make it for that special type of gun. they might would offer it as a custom option way in the future. but i do know of a scope made for a marlin lever action and you have to use the hornday lever revoultion ammo for it. they see it in cableas and you have to get if for the specific calber. its not efficatiant so i don't think it will ever happen. i wish they would make something like that. its not going to happen. it would be simpler to stick with what they have and they are about to the point where they won't be able to make a scope any more expencive the average hunter cannot afford something like the range finding scopes for $2000-3000. most won't spend as much as $1000. like i said it would be offerd as an custom opition. that its even if they go that far making scopes.

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(what you said)" Once this is done, the scope will know where to move the cross hairs to make the bullet hit the target. The information that I would have put into the scope would have to be Muzzle Velocity, Bullet Weight, Bullet type, Powder Weight, Powder type, Etc. The same Info I would use for reloading to create a ballistic report. "

they can't make a gun that shoots the same the scope can't move the gun barrel or bullet making that impossible. the bullets aren't all the same so the scope would have to be made for that bullet basically its not going to happen. you can't make the exact bullet they all have differentt weight. they have differentt info. so the bullet info won't be the same from bullet to bullet it varies from each cartage bullet, etc

Let me try to explain it again. You know the varmint scopes they already make that you can adjust it so many clicks to get the scope to shoot dead on with no hold over, and for adjusting for windage. By clicking the scope up or down so many click doesn't the cross hairs move to that pre-determined location, that the hunter already knows will be on target, based on his knowledge of his gun and balistics infornation

My scope would do this automatically, because it has the same information the hunter is pulling out of his brain. Then yes I would have to move the gun to put the cross hairs on the target, just like the varmint hunter has to. I just would not have to adjust anything manually, only put the gun on target and pull the trigger.

As far as different bullet weights It would work like a tiny computer. It only work based on what information I input into it. I could input the information for my 150 deer bullet and go deer hunting. The next day I could input the information for my 100 gr coyote bullet and go coyote hunting. The next day I could input my 220 gr elk or bear bullet information and go elk or bear hunting all using the same gun and scope.

As far as price, the original question of this post didn't have anything to do with price. And if I could use only one gun than I could afford more money for a scope such as this wouldn't I? He just ask us what we would like in a scope that wasn't available now.

And no they don't make such a scope. and I don't think they ever will. And if they do I think the military will have it long before it is available to the public. If they let the public have it. I assume they would think it would make it too easy for snipers of terrorist to be long range killers. If it was possible to make such a scope I'm sure they would have made it already. It's probably not possible. But its just a thing I thought of based on the original question.

The original question ask what we would like to have in a scope that's not made now. not what is available right now.

You guys are still thinking in terms of what is now and is possible to make on the market.

Here is the original question and I QUOTE.

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Is there anything in a scope that you'd like to see someone make that's not out there?

30-06man · « **Reply #25 on:** July 22, 2007, 03:09:15 PM »

as far as price i was speaking for the scope companys. the way you said it last time made me think of something diffrent. now about what you said i think you might be able to find that in the future

west · « **Reply #26 on:** August 03, 2007, 09:09:16 AM »

my EX wife, just not my scope LOL , be too obvious.

ba_50 · « **Reply #27 on:** August 03, 2007, 04:35:02 PM »

4x-30x variable
tactical turrents with 1/4" adjustments
tactical strength
clear and high definition lenses 30MM tube
125-150 MOA elevation
water and fogproof
MP20? reticule similiar to Ballistic plex
never fail return to zero adjustments
An automatic distance readout
16 oz or less
Lifetime warranty
$500 or less

Just dreaming!