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Just curious.  I find the idea appealing.  Perhaps an AR in .308...
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Re: Has the Ziumbo fiasco made you decide to buy a "terrorist weapon"?
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2007, 06:40:39 PM »
I already had one, but I think there's still room for another in the safe. :)

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Re: Has the Ziumbo fiasco made you decide to buy a "terrorist weapon"?
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2007, 07:09:24 PM »
I have a RRA Varmiter 223 that is VERY accurate. I have 3 sons so, I feel I need to get 2 more before the Socialist Democraps get elected.
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Re: Has the Ziumbo fiasco made you decide to buy a "terrorist weapon"?
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2007, 12:48:00 AM »
Oh Yeah!  At least one a month for the next twelve months................ Mikey.

Oh also yeah - Sarah Brady is my her-o-ine.  I never knew the 30-30 could penetrate 600 pounds of body armor.  I'm gonna git two of those, too. 

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Re: Has the Ziumbo fiasco made you decide to buy a "terrorist weapon"?
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2007, 02:20:22 AM »
I was a big AR fan, I had 3 AR15's all set up differently, I had an AK 47  and 2 SKS rifles. I also had an Alexander Arms 50 Beowulf and two of them big 50 BMG's.
I slowly sold them all and got other guns to have fun with.

But since Zumbo's foot in mouth, I felt I have to have another Oly AR15. I have one coming and should be here today or Thursday.   ;D
 
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Re: Has the Ziumbo fiasco made you decide to buy a "terrorist weapon"?
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2007, 09:16:44 AM »
No.  If somebody GAVE me an AR15 I would probably make a lamp out of it or something.  That's just me.  Rev

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Re: Has the Ziumbo fiasco made you decide to buy a "terrorist weapon"?
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2007, 10:18:41 AM »
No.  If somebody GAVE me an AR15 I would probably make a lamp out of it or something.  That's just me.  Rev

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Re: Has the Ziumbo fiasco made you decide to buy a "terrorist weapon"?
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2007, 10:38:59 AM »
I'm not gonna get one either. I think they are ugly, to ugly for a lamp, and I don't like semi auto anything in firearms except the occassional 22 LR, and then I'd prefer a bolt action. I'm not much into knee jerk reaction. I really don't care who has them, have at it.

If half the energy was put into making sure our congressmen knew how we felt as was put into ruining Zumbo, we wouldn't have to worry about thing's like Zumbo said. All over the internet it sounds like we're getting ready for world war three. We are not. The congress controls these thing's and their votes are influenced. The anti's don't make law, they attempt to influence those that do. So do we! Why not write your congressman and let him or her know that assult rifles are military weapons that citizen's don't own and that a terrorist is a terrorist reguardless of the weapon he uses. You might remind him that box cutter's might well be concidered assult weapon's or terrorist weapons. The shelf stocker's at the Safeway will hate your gut's! They'll have to go to carrying Bowie knives to open boxes.
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Re: Has the Ziumbo fiasco made you decide to buy a "terrorist weapon"?
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2007, 11:22:20 AM »
Don Fischer, I have already wrote my congressman, have you?
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Re: Has the Ziumbo fiasco made you decide to buy a "terrorist weapon"?
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2007, 11:46:54 AM »
Yep!
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Re: Has the Ziumbo fiasco made you decide to buy a "terrorist weapon"?
« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2007, 12:17:36 PM »
I was never real interested in AR types until I got to shoot with a buddy who has a Rock River and likes to varmint hunt.  It is impressive - accuracy is in the quarter inch range. Waaaayyyyy better than their guarantee.  I was at their "factory" several years ago when they were working in a garage (on the banks of the Rock River) looking at their 1911's.  I am still undecided about an AR, but mostly because there are so many other guns I want first.  The Rock River will be first on my list for an AR type, if I ever decide though.

One issue I wonder about is how these issues might all play out here in Illinois.  We have a very anti-gun state leadership.  The Democrats have all the power - Chicago/Daley and the rest of the state government (Blagoevich) who are very anti-gun, and the influence of Chicago and suburbs on the rest of the state. 
40 miles southwest of me is the Quad Cities, and in that area we have Les Baer, Springfield Armory, Rock River Arms, and Armalite.  That is a lot of manufacturing capacity.   I recall that at least one of them has declared that they will leave this state if any "assault weapon" ban is passed here.

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Re: Has the Ziumbo fiasco made you decide to buy a "terrorist weapon"?
« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2007, 12:24:59 PM »
Cement Man, I think many states are plagued like Illinois. Mine sure is. The Willamette valley, actually Portland and Eugene run this state. Califorina and Washington are in the same boat.
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Re: Has the Ziumbo fiasco made you decide to buy a "terrorist weapon"?
« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2007, 12:56:16 PM »
I was prompted to buy an AR several years ago when i heard Illinois wanted to ban them, I figured I'd be grandfathered in and be able to keep it.  I bought a Bushy Varminter and enjoy shooting it.  A bit heavy for hunting but it's been on a coyote hunt or two. 


Although I don't agree with Rev, I think the man is entitled to his opinion Redhawk.

No.  If somebody GAVE me an AR15 I would probably make a lamp out of it or something.  That's just me.  Rev

If you were not interested in the thread, why comment?  ::)
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Re: Has the Ziumbo fiasco made you decide to buy a "terrorist weapon"?
« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2007, 01:01:13 PM »
I've got to admit, I've been thinking that I might want one.........not because of Dumbo, but because of the way I've seen them shoot.

IMO, they're unattractive, or, not cosmetically appealing........but so is a Savage and a Tika.....which I already own......as they're great shooters.

Not sure yet.......for what they bring I can buy a mighty nice bolt gun....

Still kicking it around......

Maybe, in the back of my mind.......Zumbo's statements have brought out my "rebel" child........
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Re: Has the Ziumbo fiasco made you decide to buy a "terrorist weapon"?
« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2007, 01:02:12 PM »
I'd like to purchase one then I could shoot in a war rifle match.

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Re: Has the Ziumbo fiasco made you decide to buy a "terrorist weapon"?
« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2007, 01:10:24 PM »
No.  If somebody GAVE me an AR15 I would probably make a lamp out of it or something.  That's just me.  Rev

If you were not interested in the thread, why comment?  ::)
A simple no would of been sufficient.

That's OK, Redhawk1, I'm interested in all sides.  Sure wouldn't make a lamp out of it if someone gave ME one...   ;)

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Re: Has the Ziumbo fiasco made you decide to buy a "terrorist weapon"?
« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2007, 01:14:30 PM »
...If half the energy was put into making sure our congressmen knew how we felt as was put into ruining Zumbo, we wouldn't have to worry about thing's like Zumbo said. All over the internet it sounds like we're getting ready for world war three. We are not. The congress controls these thing's and their votes are influenced. The anti's don't make law, they attempt to influence those that do. So do we! Why not write your congressman  ...

I can assure you that no one ruined Zumbo - he did it to himself.

As to Congress, I am fairly certain they are getting the Zumbo message in part because of the internet activity on the subject...
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Re: Has the Ziumbo fiasco made you decide to buy a "terrorist weapon"?
« Reply #17 on: February 27, 2007, 02:57:38 PM »
I believe you might be right Coyote Hunter. My point is it never should have been a question in the first place. Doesn't really sound like to many guy's wanted to be associated with the word terrorist or to have their rifle's viewed that way yet here we are talking about weather or not we are going to go out and get a terrorist rifle. It's not a terrorist rifle, it's a semi auto! If we don't want the label on it, let's not use it ourselves, we never did befor! We validate Zumbo's remark like that. I could see Srar Brady claiming that the guy's on Graybeard even call them terrorist rifles. She would likely forget everything else we're saying here. Just a thought!
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Re: Has the Ziumbo fiasco made you decide to buy a "terrorist weapon"?
« Reply #18 on: February 27, 2007, 03:11:40 PM »
By the way, do you really believe that any of the companies paying Zumbo would have dumped him had they not been rained on by their irate CUSTOMERS? I don't think so! He made a huge blunder then compounded it with that BS apology but without irate gun owner's, he's still there.
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Re: Has the Ziumbo fiasco made you decide to buy a "terrorist weapon"?
« Reply #19 on: February 27, 2007, 03:33:06 PM »
I shot a lamp with an AR, does that count?  ;D
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Re: Has the Ziumbo fiasco made you decide to buy a "terrorist weapon"?
« Reply #20 on: February 27, 2007, 04:34:30 PM »
I shot a lamp with an AR, does that count?  ;D

No that don't count. ;D :D

 I have shot a lot of things with my AR's, but never a lamp.  ;)
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Re: Has the Ziumbo fiasco made you decide to buy a "terrorist weapon"?
« Reply #21 on: February 27, 2007, 05:39:45 PM »
I shot a lamp with an AR, does that count?  ;D

Work's for me! Was it an ugly lamp? ;D
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Re: Has the Ziumbo fiasco made you decide to buy a "terrorist weapon"?
« Reply #22 on: February 27, 2007, 11:51:40 PM »
I am waiting on a Browning BAR in 30-06 that I just ordered last week!
Does that count?
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Re: Has the Ziumbo fiasco made you decide to buy a "terrorist weapon"?
« Reply #23 on: February 28, 2007, 01:56:59 AM »
I am waiting on a Browning BAR in 30-06 that I just ordered last week!
Does that count?
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With the proposed firearms ban H.R. 1022, your gun qualify's as one.


Don Fischer, I have not used the term "terrorist weapon". And I won't,  but in the same token Coyote Hunter used it in a tongue in cheek reference. I don't believe that any AR or AK or any of them guns are "terrorist weapon". 
 
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Re: Has the Ziumbo fiasco made you decide to buy a "terrorist weapon"?
« Reply #24 on: February 28, 2007, 02:06:02 AM »
I shot a lamp with an AR, does that count?  ;D

Work's for me! Was it an ugly lamp? ;D

It had a bad cord.
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Re: Has the Ziumbo fiasco made you decide to buy a "terrorist weapon"?
« Reply #25 on: February 28, 2007, 02:32:00 AM »
The left has changed the rules over the years , when I was a kid ( long time ago ) if a football player picked up a baseball bat it was a football player holding a baseball bat !
today it would be a football bat !
So today instead of a terrorist holding a weapon , it is a terrorist what-ever !
my ? is this -
why is ziumbo seen on so many shows with a sniper rifle ?  ??? ???
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Re: Has the Ziumbo fiasco made you decide to buy a "terrorist weapon"?
« Reply #26 on: February 28, 2007, 02:47:17 AM »
When ARs first came out I was not interested. But over the years they have ben upgraded with bull barrels with some Mfg Cos claiming that sub one inch 100 Yd groups are common. One AR with a 223 Rem and Rem 6.8 MM upper units may follow me home. But I would never get any commie made AKs or ammo. I will not help commie arms  industry when they are supplying arms to people who are killing our military boy and girls.

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Re: Has the Ziumbo fiasco made you decide to buy a "terrorist weapon"?
« Reply #27 on: February 28, 2007, 04:24:57 AM »
looking at a possible 6.8 here to accompany the others.  so,  yes.   

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Re: Has the Ziumbo fiasco made you decide to buy a "terrorist weapon"?
« Reply #28 on: February 28, 2007, 06:03:40 AM »
I shot a lamp with an AR, does that count?  ;D

Work's for me! Was it an ugly lamp? ;D

It had a bad cord.

Good thing you shot it then. It was a POS!

Hey Redhawk, get on an airplane and yell that you have a bomb,,,,tounge in cheek of course. I know you haven't and I'm sure that's the way he ment it.
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Re: Has the Ziumbo fiasco made you decide to buy a "terrorist weapon"?
« Reply #29 on: February 28, 2007, 10:44:45 AM »
I shot a lamp with an AR, does that count?  ;D

Work's for me! Was it an ugly lamp? ;D

It had a bad cord.

Good thing you shot it then. It was a POS!

Hey Redhawk, get on an airplane and yell that you have a bomb,,,,tounge in cheek of course. I know you haven't and I'm sure that's the way he ment it.

Big difference, also I don't have stupid tattooed on my forehead. Who in there right mind would get on a plain and yell Bomb.
I took the post as a crack to Zumbo's foot in mouth, not figuratively.  ;)
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