Somewhere on this forum, a link about the new carbine was posted. I saw one at Gander today. It shouldered nice and felt great in my hand, it had real nice stocks on it, too.. I did not like the fiber optic sights, but that's just me. However, even if you could put a whole clip of shots into the space of a dime at 100 yds., it would not be worth $500. IMHO. That was the price on the tag. But, like they say, "It's all in what it's worth to YOU". Just my 2 cents
cookiemann