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what size shot in a 12ga?
« on: March 08, 2007, 08:59:37 AM »
What size shot for home defense?  Momma will use it as well.
Thinking about something other than buckshot/slugs.
Will size 4 shot in a high brass 2 3/4" shell do the job well?  Less recoil is better.

What do you guys use?
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Re: what size shot in a 12ga?
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2007, 09:33:58 AM »
#4 is good

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Re: what size shot in a 12ga?
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2007, 04:41:29 PM »
You could even go with something as small as #6 shot.  It will be less recoil and send more shot in the direction of the bad guy.

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Re: what size shot in a 12ga?
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2007, 12:55:26 AM »
What is the intent?  First I would never use a reload to shoot an intruder too many legal issues.  I would go with a #1 factory buck shot load.  The #4 or #6 will make a mess and lead to a long court battle.  You can tell Momma it is a light load in the shotgun and trust me when I tell you that fear will overcome recoil with a buckshot load.  I doubt there will be a "gun battle" after the shotgun goes off.  You will either have a stopped intruder or a wounded intruder getting the hell out.
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Re: what size shot in a 12ga?
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2007, 11:04:25 AM »
Who said reloads?  I'm asking for a factory shotshell that others use.  I should have been more clear.

I think it's all going to make a mess and end up in court, either way.  That's today's society.

#1 I don't want to wound anybody.  If I have to shoot, they better be dead. See above.

Just want to know what others use, and/or what's reccomended and WHY.

I figured a good heavy load of #4 shot would suffice, but I want to know why not, too.  Thanks
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Re: what size shot in a 12ga?
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2007, 11:39:59 AM »
Also, any links to webpages with reports on shotgun effectiveness, etc would be cool.  Thanks again.
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Re: what size shot in a 12ga?
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2007, 03:00:27 PM »
35Rem:  #4 Buckshot is effective.  #4 Shot is not unless you know where to put it.  HTH.  Mikey

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Re: what size shot in a 12ga?
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2007, 04:39:46 AM »
There are low-recoil buckshot loads avaiable. I'm not sure that you actually need buckshot. Whatever you choose, you and momma should pattern it and practice to see how and where it hits.

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Re: what size shot in a 12ga?
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2007, 08:12:15 AM »
Federal makes a 12ga. PD load with #2 shot.  It is labeled " low recoil " and PD.  #PD12 2 is the product number.  It is a 2 3/4" hull, high brass, 1 1/4 oz. shot, 3 dram eq, and the velocity is listed at 1140 fps.  It is what I have in my HD shotguns. ;D
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Re: what size shot in a 12ga?
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2007, 08:43:16 AM »
At a gun club meeting we were discussing our pistol bowling pin shoots and I wanted info regarding the shoot using shotguns.

The shoot takes place from 21' away.

Anyway one of the few members I believe knew what he was talking about said birdshot will go through a 55 gallon metal drum barrel from 6'.

I agree with Bob VT and think you could even have her practice with low brass but stick the real stuff (buckshot) down the tube later at home.

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Re: what size shot in a 12ga?
« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2007, 07:02:12 PM »
Also, any links to webpages with reports on shotgun effectiveness, etc would be cool.  Thanks again.
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Re: what size shot in a 12ga?
« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2007, 06:33:23 AM »
Todd N.

Thanks a lot!!  That's what we needed to know.
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Re: what size shot in a 12ga?
« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2007, 03:38:17 PM »
an interesting test.... I am not really surprised by the results though
except from the slugs. I would have expected the jug to have been vaporized.
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Re: what size shot in a 12ga?
« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2007, 09:56:32 AM »
If you're shooting birds, stick with bird shot. For home defense, I'll stick with 00.
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Re: what size shot in a 12ga?
« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2007, 04:38:11 AM »
Amen!
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